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Ski areas limiting access to terrain

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9 years 1 week ago #228698 by gravitymk
Replied by gravitymk on topic Re: Ski areas limiting access to terrain

Thank you


X2

If I am available Tuesday morning, I will show up.
Assume top of lot 4?
Time?
Tools?

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9 years 1 week ago #228699 by AlpineRose
Replied by AlpineRose on topic Re: Ski areas limiting access to terrain

I also think it is time to cut the umbilical cord actually tour away from the ski areas and stop whining about how a business manages their lease


A fine, but rhetorical, idea.  How exactly is the average ski tourer supposed to get to this terrain?  Most of us can't go heli skiing all winter.  Nor do we have snowmobiles - and the trailers and big rigs and the storage space they require.  As well, most of us are not macho supermen that can get to the more remote places in the winter.

The number of bc skiers is expanding, access is diminishing, do the math.      

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9 years 1 week ago #228701 by snoqpass
Replied by snoqpass on topic Re: Ski areas limiting access to terrain

I agree that the ski areas should be closed while avy control work is underway. This is easy to do in a confined area like a ski area

Could you imagine that happening at a lift served ski area to enable paying customers first tracks? Sure, just pay a little extra to go out with the patrol.

And yet Tuesday morning people walked right by posted signs an tried to uphill at Alpental prior to control work. Who wants to pay money to pick up rope lines and tower pads?

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9 years 1 week ago #228702 by pipedream
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In a situation such as heli-sking on public land historically used first for human powered ascents and easily accessed by the public, the forest service allows the heli operation to do avy control work while ski touring groups are in the area.

The heli clients are even there while the guides ski cut avy terrain, ie, avalanche control work.

I think it's a stretch to classify ski cutting as true avalanche mitigation. I'd say control work is defined as stressing the snowpack via means outside of what is available to the common person (e.g. skiing, hiking and dropping cornii). Of which, NCH does none.

But you keep digging at that chip on your shoulder... the rest of us are watching in anticipation

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9 years 1 week ago #228705 by Bronco
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Regarding the Stevens Pass Nordic center, it sounds like you might have grounds for filing a complaint with the Dept. Of Agriculture Office of the Inspector General. ::)

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9 years 1 week ago #228706 by Jason4
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i would rather see people learn to ski first and venture into the side country in order to learn the ropes before getting into terrain that they don't understand.

I didn't read that to mean people should snub ski areas entirely and learn to ski in the backcountry, I read it to mean people shouldn't be dependent on ski areas for their parking lots or grooming for the start of a tour. I'd much rather start my tour somewhere away from other people competing for the same resource using different means.

I dream of the days that I can go backcountry skiing in areas that are only accessed by other backcountry skiers and I can have a chunk of the backcountry where I can go ride my sled without worrying about bothering someone touring because they have to choose between a motorized snopark or the ski area parking lots or starting at the snowline to walk for miles up a logging road to get to the alpine.

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