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Hey friend, I'm not trying to defend any heinous off-leash perpetrators, brown wax non picker-uppers, or Great Danes in the mountains or anything, I'm just saying there's a lot worse things to get worked up about. Like snowshoeing the skin track. Now that shiz is just not right!

I and the OP have seen unleashed dogs get seriously wounded in this area as a result of getting hit by passing skiers. Maybe that's cool with you.

Feel free to focus on super important issues like reliable mid-week opening times for the road to Paradise.

As a dog owner (who let's his dog go play unleashed in 'leashed' area's and as a skier) I see both sides of this with valid points.

My take on this is the following:

As a dog owner. If you're dog is always in the way (like mine) leash it or don't take it to a popular area. Clean up after it and make sure you do the right thing.

As a skier. If you're so out of control that you hit a dog on a small trail, I kinda feel like you're in the wrong here. Yes, maybe the dog was unleashed, but had that dog been a person, you would have hit them as well. Had the dog been eratic (see first response) then the dog owner is at fault.

The short answer to this just like the don't hike in the skin track/etc.. is, it's going to happen, and you should just learn to either report the issues to the authorities, or deal with it in a polite manner. Bitching about something on a forum isn't really going to fix anything, unless you're addressing a specific person/group that troll this forum, which I'm fairly certain you are not.

As a skier. If you're so out of control that you hit a dog on a small trail, I kinda feel like you're in the wrong here. Yes, maybe the dog was unleashed, but had that dog been a person, you would have hit them as well.  Had the dog been eratic (see first response) then the dog owner is at fault.

If you let your dog run out of control on an established downhill return to the ski base area you're inconsiderate and stupid. If a person is on that trail they're inconsiderate and stupid too.

It's just like stopping in a blind spot on the piste.

If you're referring to my collision you absolutely false.  I was 100% in control and the dog jumped in my path leaving zero time to do anything but ram it.  It would be like jumping off a freeway overpass and blaming a driver for hitting you.

If you're so out of control as a dog owner your dog likely will get hit by skiers, cars, bikers etc.  It's your responsibility to keep your dog out of the way of fast moving traffic.

As a skier. If you're so out of control that you hit a dog on a small trail, I kinda feel like you're in the wrong here. Yes, maybe the dog was unleashed, but had that dog been a person, you would have hit them as well.

Yeah, no...
People will look up and react accordingly when incoming skiers yell a warning, like "skier on track"...
People move over - dogs not so much.

Had the dog been eratic (see first response) then the dog owner is at fault.

There you have it...

If you let your dog run out of control on an established downhill return to the ski base area you're inconsiderate and stupid. If a person is on that trail they're inconsiderate and stupid too.

It's just like stopping in a blind spot on the piste.

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This

That trail is a ski area exit, down hill traffic.
People heading up that trail need to exercise awareness to their surroundings and immediate dangers (such as incoming traffic).

And, for all the p00baggers, please carry that crap out with you...

Maybe Glenn was implying that you don't really understand responsible dog ownership?

Bingo!