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  • Charlie Hagedorn
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12 years 2 months ago #211369 by Charlie Hagedorn
Replied by Charlie Hagedorn on topic Re: NWAC Forecasts, New Site, New Logo
It's my understanding that NWAC shied away from the rose in part because it could sometimes overstate forecast precision. That can be as detrimental as a too-vague forecast. There may be another way (three small summary graphics for the top three concerns of the day?) to get a graphical summary without a single rose.

I miss the elevations too. It seems like our snowpack is more temperature/precipitation-type determined than wind-driven. In some conditions, the most important parameter is the elevation of yesterday's freezing level. At Stevens and Snoqualmie, trees extend to the summits, some above 6k, into the highest of the forecast elevations. The shift to three elevation bands may also have been to provide better understanding of the forecast precision; if there are better and descriptive words to describe low/mid/high elevations, perhaps they can come into use.

At the end of the day, the forecast discussion and concern descriptions are where the goodies are, and NWAC's always delivered useful information in prose to reinforce whatever has been stated in quantitative and graphical form.

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12 years 1 month ago #211382 by r1de
Replied by r1de on topic Re: NWAC Forecasts, New Site, New Logo
I'm going to miss the danger rose as well, and I agree with the comments made about elevation vs. tree line.

My biggest concern with the new layout is that a single day's information is now distributed across multiple screens or pages (exacerbated on mobile). I think this is a dangerous layout, as it makes easy selection of the most favorable of the elevation zones based on what you're currently looking at. Given the point about elevation vs. tree line above, I miss being able to quickly determine with a single glance at one graphic, that the danger is "high" *anywhere* today - instead of seeing "oh hey, it's low today" ... but scroll down to actually see it's "high" below tree line.

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12 years 1 month ago #211427 by OldHouseMan
Replied by OldHouseMan on topic Re: NWAC Forecasts, New Site, New Logo
Maybe I'm just not finding the info, but the new site seems far less informative than the old.

Today, 12/21 under the Mt Hood Forecast Discussion the information seems to refer to the Crystal Mt and Mt Baker areas. There is only one short paragraph under the Sunday forecast specifically referring to the Mt Hood area. 

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12 years 1 month ago #211440 by Bird Dog
Replied by Bird Dog on topic Re: NWAC Forecasts, New Site, New Logo
I would like to see the danger rose return. Not because it conveyed a ton of information, but I found it a nice visual that would stick in my brain while out on a trip. A typical rating of "considerable above 5000', moderate below" contains valuable info; bit it's really the snowpack analysis that tells the where/why/what info that gives a starting point for what to look for. The danger rose left me with that visual of which aspects to to pay special attention to. (Flame retardant statement: regardless of the rose I still give attention to and analyze every slope.)

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12 years 1 month ago #211448 by Jimmy Row
Replied by Jimmy Row on topic Re: NWAC Forecasts, New Site, New Logo
You don't fix what ain't broke. Too many darned clicks! As of this post the site is not working on my phone at all. It seems there could be a much more streamlined way to do this. First click on which geographic area you want, then you have the option of either weather forecast, avy forecast, or telemetry. Done.

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12 years 1 month ago #211495 by CascadeClimber
Replied by CascadeClimber on topic Re: NWAC Forecasts, New Site, New Logo
Not being able to navigate all the weather/telemetry stations from one screen sucks. Bring back the basic text nav along the left, please; having to click 5-6 times to change stations is a PITA.

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