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12 years 5 months ago - 12 years 5 months ago #210405 by T. Eastman
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... that said, the FS is truly seeking input and as skiers we have lots of ideas, expertise, and experience to add to the discussion.  The heavily traveled areas will likely maintain road networks, but looking through the lens of winter access, some areas will be better from a maintenance perspective than others. 

Letting your Congressional Rep or Senator is important.

Be creative and throw it out there...

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12 years 5 months ago #210406 by davidG

Green bonding, man.  Ira Spring was right.  Harvey Manning was wrong.

Without reasonable access to wilderness (and that means the good stuff, not just the brushy outskirts) public support for wilderness will wither.

The Wilderness Watch notion that a overgrown road is as good as a mountain meadow, as long as they're both "wilderness," is foolish.

We've been blessed with a marvelous balance between remoteness and access in Northwest for the past few decades.

Preserving the balance is our generation's challenge.


wisdom..

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12 years 5 months ago #210410 by T. Eastman
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I heard today that the Winter Travel Management Plan will be developed as a later phase of the planning process and not part of this road closure plan.

Without laying out winter access, the choices for road closure are going to not reflect the needs of winter users.

I will find out more, but this seems to create a flawed road closure process...

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12 years 5 months ago #210411 by Scotsman
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I heard today that the Winter Travel Management Plan will be developed as a later phase of the planning process and not part of this road closure plan.

Without laying out winter access, the choices for road closure are going to not reflect the needs of winter users.

I will find out more, but this seems to create a flawed road closure process...


Now there's a shock! ::) Bureaucrats!!... When the world ends all that will be left are cockroaches and bureaucrats, both scavenging off the remains of those that actually created or did anything.

Truly gifted and driven people do not enter these government agencies and as a result they become the depository of mediocrity and those that like the system and hence the system perpetuates and becomes an end to itself.

The future lies with private initiatives by driven people and you can write as many letters and attend as many meetings as you want in the faint hope that change will occur. It will all be in vain and you are wasting your time even talking to them.

Revolution does not occur in the meeting rooms of bureaucrats...it occurs on the front lines and the streets!  Tear down the rancid nests these bureaucrats frequent. Until that occurs you are merely paying lip service and justifying their existence.

phhhheeeew..... I feel better now ! Bring me my meds sweetheart! STAT.

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12 years 5 months ago #210412 by T. Eastman
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Now there's a shock! ::) Bureaucrats!!... When the world ends all that will be left are cockroaches and bureaucrats, both scavenging off the remains of those that actually created or did anything.

Truly gifted and driven people do not enter these government agencies and as a result they become the depository of mediocrity and those that like the system and hence the system perpetuates and becomes an end to itself.

The future lies with private initiatives by driven people and you can write as many letters and attend as many meetings as you want in the faint hope that change will occur. It will all be in vain and you are wasting your time even talking to them.

Revolution does not occur in the meeting rooms of bureaucrats...it occurs on the front lines and the streets!  Tear down the rancid nests these bureaucrats frequent. Until that occurs you are merely paying lip service and justifying their existence.

phhhheeeew..... I feel better now ! Bring me my meds sweetheart! STAT.


Well Scotsman, until the revolution happens, I intend to get several decades of good climbing, hiking, running, and skiing in these hills, and will encourage others to help shape a workable solution from perspectives that reflect the mentioned activities.

You say you want a revolution... well you know... we all want to change the world...

Cheers!

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12 years 5 months ago #210413 by Randito
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H'mm the Washington Trails Association (WTA.ORG) was formed to deal with cutbacks in Forest Service trail maintenance, perhaps we now need to form the WFRA Washington Forest Road Association to maintain forest roads and access.

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