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13 years 2 weeks ago #208432 by joecat2
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I prefer to lock my heels in for the descent while skins are still on the skis, this avoids getting snow in the pinholes or under the boot sole, and a lost ski very unlikely compared to removing skis and reattaching. Just don't fall when stripping skins, (applies to stiff old geezers). Geezers must also remember to go into ski mode on front. This method only works with leashes, not brakes.

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13 years 2 weeks ago #208434 by Edgesport
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In my case, this effect is only a problem in downhill mode. Locking the toe cures it completely.

Didn't you say your broke your ankle doing that :)

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13 years 2 weeks ago #208436 by Edgesport
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Edge, perhaps I read too much into this, which is from your initial post: "but I now believe it to be a problem systemic to all Dynafit models."

You are right of course, to only have it happen twice is good, but if either of those two times leaves you stranded then its going to make for a shitty day.  Last march I got rid of brakes and started using leashes.  Less weight and the skis won't run away, I personally won't go back to brakes for tech bindings.

After hearing about Garmont's messed up tech holes, it makes me appreciate how subtle changes in the pin/toe hole shapes can really effect the interface, and is something that should be inspected with some degree of regularity.

Reread your last post, and I want to ask, how much do you use ski crampons? I find myself to use them pretty liberally, which doesn't require me to really stomp down on the ski (or at least not as hard if i wasn't using them).


I have Garmont Axon boots. Sole length 327mm (@Charlie) - I hadn't heard about tech hole issues. Can you elaborate or post a link? I actually use ski crampons more than my partners. I'd rather use them before it is "absolutely" necessary than struggle at all and waste energy. I looked at my holes yesterday didn't see anything obvious. Guess I could measure the depths. But since others have reported similar instances (and I get that it is rare) with and without questionable tech holes and the Lou video proves certain forces can and will release the toe I am inclined to believe I need to leash in certain conditions. I might even like the leashes and dump the brakes. Not having brakes would certainly make twisting the Radical heel tower into tour mode easier and eliminate some snow build up under the boot that happens. :)

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13 years 2 weeks ago #208439 by Robie
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Well ,There is a whole bunch of stuff going here .

I'm curious about the sole depth acting on the spring plate. I'll have to check that out.
It does pay to lube and check your gear often. In regard to pins and sockets.

This method only works with leashes, not brakes.

Hmm that's interesting as Ive been skiing with brakes for 5 yr now and always lock into downhill mode with no problems before" Geezerly" ripping skins .

I like to ski with both Brakes and leashes. Admittedly my leashes are very empirical. A small plastic biner clips into Two snap ties attached to boot tongue. This system has saved me from chasing down a ski numerous times and i feel confident it would all come apart in the worst situation.

Good discussion .

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13 years 2 weeks ago #208447 by kevino
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The Garmont hole issue I was referring was this years edition of the Cosmos. Don't think any other Garmonts had this problem.

www.wildsnow.com/8655/garmont-cosmos-details-review/

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13 years 2 weeks ago #208449 by JPH
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I prefer to lock my heels in for the descent while skins are still on the skis, this avoids getting snow in the pinholes or under the boot sole, and a lost ski very unlikely compared to removing skis and reattaching. Just don't fall when stripping skins, (applies to stiff old geezers).   Geezers must also remember to go into ski mode on front.  This method only works with leashes, not brakes.


You can transition from skin to ski without taking off skis with brakes. My new problem is spinning my downhill heel piece on steep, hard snow to lock down with the new dynafits. Is there any way to spin those suckers with your pole?

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