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Field repair of pulled bindings
- Lowell_Skoog
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I'm newer than I thought here but how are people breaking the bindings off the skis? Were they miss mounted in the first place? Is it only the toe? I've seen this in bounds before but never back country (aside from pros)
There were several TRs recently that mentioned Dynafit toe pieces being pulled out. I can't remember which TRs they were. Always the toe piece. I believe one was on a Dynafit ski with inserts (which can be munged if you install them carelessly). Another was in a ski that had rotted out due to water damage. Another was in a TR emailed to me that was never posted. Anybody remember more details?
My theory is that the problem has increased as manufacturers have built skis that are both wide and reasonably lightweight. Having recently bought some new wider/lighter skis, I've decided to head out prepared to deal with this.
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Also as mentioned: hose clamps, zip ties, baling wire and any other key small parts specific to your bindings. Your basic MacGyver kit.
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Perhaps "back in the day" but not now.[. . .] tele screws. Since the diameter and thread pitch are usually fatter and "toothier" [. . . ]
In general though, I think we are to blame for this too. I mean, if a cyclist posted on a bike forum about a fastener coming undone after years of riding without ever checking the tightness of key fasteners, we'd all think that was ridiculous. But how many of us regularly check to see if all our binding screws are tight?
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There were several TRs recently that mentioned Dynafit toe pieces being pulled out. I can't remember which TRs they were. Always the toe piece. I believe one was on a Dynafit ski with inserts (which can be munged if you install them carelessly). Another was in a ski that had rotted out due to water damage. Another was in a TR emailed to me that was never posted. Anybody remember more details?
My theory is that the problem has increased as manufacturers have built skis that are both wide and reasonably lightweight. Having recently bought some new wider/lighter skis, I've decided to head out prepared to deal with this.
Why would wider, lighter skis be a factor? Lighter wouldn't in my mind except that they may not have the metal layer in them to help and the wood could be lighter. Wider, maybe more torque on the ski? I doubt this is a factor. I would be interested to know how many of these ripped out binding toes were self installed instead of tech installed. As a former tech, I saw some skis that were done at home that probably shouldn't have been skied at all.
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Perhaps "back in the day" but not now.
In general though, I think we are to blame for this too. I mean, if a cyclist posted on a bike forum about a fastener coming undone after years of riding without ever checking the tightness of key fasteners, we'd all think that was ridiculous. But how many of us regularly check to see if all our binding screws are tight?
It's why you have to hoard old G3 Targa screw sets.
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Why would wider, lighter skis be a factor? Lighter wouldn't in my mind except that they may not have the metal layer in them to help and the wood could be lighter. Wider, maybe more torque on the ski? I doubt this is a factor. I would be interested to know how many of these ripped out binding toes were self installed instead of tech installed. As a former tech, I saw some skis that were done at home that probably shouldn't have been skied at all.
Lighter skis are using less/no metal for the mounting area, lower-density wood, thinner fiberglass, etc, so I'd bet that could be a factor. I'd also bet that user-installs and ski-fatigue/core-rot (as was the case with Amar's issue) are a bigger factor.
I tore out the mounts on a pair of Insanes (twice) and Kailas, both of which were shop mounted, one of them with helicoils. These were the back screws on a tele binding though, so a different amount/kind of force on the mounting.
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