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15 years 3 weeks ago #197042 by gravitymk
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Bwahahahahahah!

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15 years 3 weeks ago - 15 years 3 weeks ago #197041 by BillyTheMountain
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"Crystal" is just a bunch o folks running a ski resort. The demons behind this incremental erosion of your civil rights is CNL REAL ESTATE TRUST, and they appear to me to be a ski area monopoly. They care less about you or Crystal.
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I believe that when they BOUGHT Crystal, the CONTRACT they signed to take over the lease includes the CURRENT REGULATIONS. What CNL is doing is buying up ski resorts and then SETTING OUT to change the terms of the GD contract! The corporation should/MUST follow the terms of the lease as it was when they acquired Crystal.
They are tricky, they are little piggies in cubicles in West Virgina scratching there way up the corporate ladder. They have NO INSIGHT into our good intentions and NW ski culture. They will incrementally destroy it so they can buy a new car for there daughter in Brandice University
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RFID will make it so they can EASILY mail you a ticket. You will not even be stopped up skiing, you will not even know what happened. They can install a tower sentry and just have a remote setting to change the sentry at will. Or they will be able to "see" you from a satellite and issue the ticket that way.
The ski patrol will have nothing to do with this is my guess. But they MAY use them at first. There is WAY to much DANGER to a ski patroller issuing a ticket. To much room for lawsuits and property destruction and getting beat up, tazered, or shot.
Each person has 3 to 8 RFID chips on them, skiers probably have more like 20 RFID devices on them NOW TODAY, they don't even need to chip you.
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They will soon have SECURITY PERSONEL on the ski slopes! The Ski Patrol will become rescue only. The security personnel will be contractors separate from the Ski Resort so that the ski resort will NOT be liable, in fact, nobody will be liable because they set it up that way. We have this scenario RIGHT NOW at Alpental and we have cameras and secret visitors invading our snow church.
There is so much more to say about this but I am tired of being attacked everytime I warn folks or mention this sh*t.
The Freedom Of The Hills is no more. Sorry Harvey, K2, Combs, Carl and all the other (deceased) ski pioneers. It appears that we are just a bunch of plastic corporate pundits and polluters that can't even take care of our own mountains. Pathetic.

Good luck,
BillyTheMountain

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15 years 3 weeks ago #197037 by gravitymk
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Um, Boyne owns Crystal.
CNL owns the ski areas on Snoqualmie Pass.
Boyne has a contract to manage some of the properties that CNL ownes.

Here's a list of what CNL owns:
cnl.com/lifestyle/property_list.html

Here's a list of what Boyne owns:
cnl.com/lifestyle/property_list.html

Check your facts.

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15 years 3 weeks ago #197038 by BillyTheMountain
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Um, Boyne owns Crystal.
CNL owns the ski areas on Snoqualmie Pass.

CNL IS the parent company of Boyne.
There is ALWAYS a parent company.
However, NEITHER nor any of them OWN Crystal or Alpental, they have been entrusted to take care of OUR PUBLIC LAND. That was our first mistake.
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BillyTheMountain
QUESTION: What does the symbol resemble on the bottom of the gondola at Crystal? HINT: Its not a snowflake.

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15 years 3 weeks ago #197035 by snoqpass
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"Crystal" is just a bunch o folks running a ski resort. The demons behind this incremental erosion of your civil rights is CNL REAL ESTATE TRUST, and they appear to me to be a ski area monopoly. They care less about you or Crystal.
1.
I believe that when they BOUGHT Crystal, the CONTRACT they signed to take over the lease includes the CURRENT REGULATIONS. What CNL is doing is buying up ski resorts and then SETTING OUT to change the terms of the GD contract! The corporation should/MUST follow the terms of the lease as it was when they acquired Crystal.
They are tricky, they are little piggies in cubicles in West Virgina scratching there way up the corporate ladder. They have NO INSIGHT into our good intentions and NW ski culture. They will incrementally destroy it so they can buy a new car for there daughter in Brandice University
2.
RFID will make it so they can EASILY mail you a ticket. You will not even be stopped up skiing, you will not even know what happened. They can install a tower sentry and just have a remote setting to change the sentry at will. Or they will be able to "see" you from a satellite and issue the ticket that way.
The ski patrol will have nothing to do with this is my guess. But they MAY use them at first. There is WAY to much DANGER to a ski patroller issuing a ticket. To much room for lawsuits and property destruction and getting beat up, tazered, or shot.
Each person has 3 to 8 RFID chips on them, skiers probably have more like 20 RFID devices on them NOW TODAY, they don't even need to chip you.
3.
They will soon have SECURITY PERSONEL on the ski slopes! The Ski Patrol will become rescue only. The security personnel will be contractors separate from the Ski Resort so that the ski resort will NOT be liable, in fact, nobody will be liable because they set it up that way. We have this scenario RIGHT NOW at Alpental and we have cameras and secret visitors invading our snow church.
There is so much more to say about this but I am tired of being attacked everytime I warn folks or mention this sh*t.
The Freedom Of The Hills is no more. Sorry Harvey, K2, Combs, Carl and all the other (deceased) ski pioneers. It appears that we are just a bunch of plastic corporate pundits and polluters that can't even take care of our own mountains. Pathetic.

Good luck,
BillyTheMountain


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15 years 3 weeks ago - 15 years 3 weeks ago #197032 by gravitymk
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CNL IS the parent company of Boyne.
There is ALWAYS a parent company.
However, NEITHER nor any of them OWN Crystal or Alpental, they have been entrusted to take care of OUR PUBLIC LAND. That was our first mistake.
Kindest regards,
BillyTheMountain
QUESTION: What does the symbol resemble on the bottom of the gondola at Crystal? HINT: Its not a snowflake.


Some times it's hard to believe the messenger, when the message is always crying that the sky is falling.

Regarding CNL being the parent company, prove it:


About CNL Income Properties Inc.

CNL Income Properties Inc. is a real estate investment trust that owns a portfolio of 71 properties in the United States and Canada in the lifestyle and recreation sectors. Headquartered in Orlando, Fla., CNL Income Properties specializes in the acquisition of golf courses, ski resorts, marinas, campgrounds, merchandise marts, destination retail and entertainment centers and attractions. For more information, visit www.cnl.com .

About Boyne USA Resorts

Boyne USA Resorts is the owner/operator of geographically diverse four-season destination resorts and day-ski areas located near major metropolitan areas. The business has been overseen by the Kircher family since 1947 and is the largest family run four-season resort company in North America. The founder, Everett Kircher, is recognized within the ski community as a pioneer and visionary who possessed a deep passion for winter sports and the outdoors and in leading Boyne USA?s team, his children are carrying on this tradition. Along with operating Brighton, UT, Cypress Mountain, B.C. and Gatlinburg Sky Lift, TN, Boyne USA Resorts owns Big Sky Resort in Montana, Crystal Mountain in Washington, and Michigan?s premier active lifestyle resorts ? Boyne Mountain and Boyne Highlands and the distinguished lakeside destination - The Inn at Bay Harbor ? A Renaissance Golf Resort, including Bay Harbor Golf Club and Crooked Tree Golf Club. For more information, visit www.boyneusaresorts.com .


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyne_Resorts

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