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15 years 8 months ago - 15 years 8 months ago #192403
by Chris
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looking for advice on arrest poles. Are you using them? If so do you carry one or two? I like the idea behind the grivel condor being able to close the pick when not needed but they are harder to find in US now vs the BD whippet which seems to the be gold standard.
any info/advice appreciated. thanks, Chris
also, i've checked these posts and there was good info. If you have anything else to add please do. thanks again
www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboardi...ex.php?topic=10551.0
www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboardi...dex.php?topic=1346.0
any info/advice appreciated. thanks, Chris
also, i've checked these posts and there was good info. If you have anything else to add please do. thanks again
www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboardi...ex.php?topic=10551.0
www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboardi...dex.php?topic=1346.0
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15 years 8 months ago #192423
by Zap
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Chris,
I'm still using the Grivel Condor as I mentioned in my July 2008 posting. Luckily, I have not had a situation that required thier use.
I'm still using the Grivel Condor as I mentioned in my July 2008 posting. Luckily, I have not had a situation that required thier use.
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15 years 8 months ago #192425
by AndyMartin
Replied by AndyMartin on topic Re: Arrest poles
I carry one Whippet and one regular pole. Never used it in anger, but it's great for small slips or just hooking into a steep slope.
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15 years 8 months ago #192460
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thanks Zap/Andy
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15 years 8 months ago #192462
by Marcus
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Hey Chris,
My wife uses the Condor and loves it. I've got an older Whippet, which I prefer to the new model because you could easily remove the pick if you didn't want it sticking in your face.
I would have a second one for steeper climbs. Will probably get one eventually. That said, I think of them more as climbing aids and security and don't give them a high likelihood of stopping a fall on steep firm terrain. I still carry an axe if I'm going to be in that type of situation.
My wife uses the Condor and loves it. I've got an older Whippet, which I prefer to the new model because you could easily remove the pick if you didn't want it sticking in your face.
I would have a second one for steeper climbs. Will probably get one eventually. That said, I think of them more as climbing aids and security and don't give them a high likelihood of stopping a fall on steep firm terrain. I still carry an axe if I'm going to be in that type of situation.
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15 years 8 months ago #192463
by Charlie Hagedorn
Replied by Charlie Hagedorn on topic Re: Arrest poles
I ski most of the time with one Whippet. They're great for stopping slips, and even better as a backcountry climbing aid/multi-tool. If I skied lots of steep stuff, I'd probably ski with a pair of them. I only use one simply because it's easier to keep track of one pick instead of two in the event of a crash (that said, the picks do a remarkably good job of staying out of the way).
I actually think it's more comfortable to use than my normal poles for summer trips, and they're greatly superior to normal poles when hiking in scrambly terrain. Want to use your hands to negotiate an obstacle? Just reach up and perch the pick on something. The pick is plenty strong enough for occasional torquing in cracks, opening up a range of secure handholds.
As a tool, they're a pole that won't skitter away, a fishing hook, a nose scratcher, a tool for passing things across a stream, a bomber screwdriver/scraper, etc.
The pick guards are a good idea, though I no longer carry it. I've made solid pick placements with the guard on in the past in softer snow - the elastic is stretchy enough that the guard can come off on the first placement, making the second stab full strength.
I actually think it's more comfortable to use than my normal poles for summer trips, and they're greatly superior to normal poles when hiking in scrambly terrain. Want to use your hands to negotiate an obstacle? Just reach up and perch the pick on something. The pick is plenty strong enough for occasional torquing in cracks, opening up a range of secure handholds.
As a tool, they're a pole that won't skitter away, a fishing hook, a nose scratcher, a tool for passing things across a stream, a bomber screwdriver/scraper, etc.
The pick guards are a good idea, though I no longer carry it. I've made solid pick placements with the guard on in the past in softer snow - the elastic is stretchy enough that the guard can come off on the first placement, making the second stab full strength.
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