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Snowshoes and Skinning
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16 years 2 months ago - 16 years 2 months ago #189135
by SkierHiker
Snowshoes and Skinning was created by SkierHiker
From my previous thread (Fat Ski Skinning) you all know that I've been thinking about getting into BC skiing. While I was going through this process, I was talking to my wife about all of it. She likes to snowshoe and we both have shoes. I was asking her if she wanted to take an AIARE 1 course and get set up with beacon, probe ,shovel, etc. My thought was that she and I would hike in with snowshoes and I would carrying my skis. When we get to a good base or day camp, I would skin and ski while she putts around. Then we would hike back. Anybody doing anything like this? Does it make sense? Sounds like it could be a nice outing with my wife. Remember I have never skinned before so is this total nonsense or a good idea? Any suggested areas for a day trip? We both have only romped around with the snowshoes, never gone out for a full day excursion. And I would have to either rent the BC gear or wait until I have my own. I'm thinking that time might be the critical factor here - time to hike in, time to skin, and time to hike out. Thoughts?
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16 years 2 months ago #189143
by Charlie Hagedorn
Replied by Charlie Hagedorn on topic Re: Snowshoes and Skinning
If you're both excited about it, just go play (safely) in the mountains! You'll figure it out.
Tangentially related thoughts, not all of them may apply:
An old friend with lots of experience leading groups of people in the Cascades said (paraphrasing), "things work best when everyone has the same kind of footwear." She was more correct than I'd expected at the time.
Skis and snowshoes are efficient at different things, especially when you're just starting out. For beginners in the backcountry, skis can travel long distances through mellow open terrain very fast, while snowshoes can negotiate complex/steeper terrain/funky snow with comparative ease. Snowshoes are comparatively user friendly, when compared with skinning. As you get better at skinning and skiing in the backcountry environment, snowshoes will become comparatively less and less efficient.
Skinning and skiing can take a lot of time - figure 1000 vertical feet an hour climbed and skied, once you've got the logistics of skinning/transitions worked out.
Avalanche knowledge is a great thing for everyone to have. My first experiences with instability came on snowshoes. The more you know, the more tools you and your partner(s) will have to recognize and avoid hazard. Note that effective rescue depends on the proximity of rescuers. The effective range of a beacon is ~50 m. The effective range of a partner depends on visibility/terrain, but it's usually not significantly greater and is often less.
Mixing significant others with backcountry adventures often requires delicate balance. Things tend to go best when everyone's happy, warm, fed, and having fun. Sunny days help. If you want to spend a day together, spend a day together. If you want to ski, go ski (with another partner) and meet up later.
For destinations, keep watching TAY for ideas, but consider picking up a copy of "Snowshoe Routes - Washington" . Many of the routes/destinations in there are appropriate in scale for snowshoeing and have interesting things to do/see. Some of them also have reasonable skiing on/near the routes.
What you've described might work well with another couple/team with similar preferences in footwear/goals. It's not hard to imagine a location that has good slopes to yo-yo along with nearby scenic snowshoeing loops (Edith Creek Basin (and other Paradise environs), when it's stable, for one). At certain times in the Spring/Summer, the trip to Camp Muir is a pretty good way to combine hikers and skiers.
Tangentially related thoughts, not all of them may apply:
An old friend with lots of experience leading groups of people in the Cascades said (paraphrasing), "things work best when everyone has the same kind of footwear." She was more correct than I'd expected at the time.
Skis and snowshoes are efficient at different things, especially when you're just starting out. For beginners in the backcountry, skis can travel long distances through mellow open terrain very fast, while snowshoes can negotiate complex/steeper terrain/funky snow with comparative ease. Snowshoes are comparatively user friendly, when compared with skinning. As you get better at skinning and skiing in the backcountry environment, snowshoes will become comparatively less and less efficient.
Skinning and skiing can take a lot of time - figure 1000 vertical feet an hour climbed and skied, once you've got the logistics of skinning/transitions worked out.
Avalanche knowledge is a great thing for everyone to have. My first experiences with instability came on snowshoes. The more you know, the more tools you and your partner(s) will have to recognize and avoid hazard. Note that effective rescue depends on the proximity of rescuers. The effective range of a beacon is ~50 m. The effective range of a partner depends on visibility/terrain, but it's usually not significantly greater and is often less.
Mixing significant others with backcountry adventures often requires delicate balance. Things tend to go best when everyone's happy, warm, fed, and having fun. Sunny days help. If you want to spend a day together, spend a day together. If you want to ski, go ski (with another partner) and meet up later.
For destinations, keep watching TAY for ideas, but consider picking up a copy of "Snowshoe Routes - Washington" . Many of the routes/destinations in there are appropriate in scale for snowshoeing and have interesting things to do/see. Some of them also have reasonable skiing on/near the routes.
What you've described might work well with another couple/team with similar preferences in footwear/goals. It's not hard to imagine a location that has good slopes to yo-yo along with nearby scenic snowshoeing loops (Edith Creek Basin (and other Paradise environs), when it's stable, for one). At certain times in the Spring/Summer, the trip to Camp Muir is a pretty good way to combine hikers and skiers.
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16 years 2 months ago #189144
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Replied by alpentalcorey on topic Re: Snowshoes and Skinning
I respectfully believe that it does not make sense. At all. Just my 2 cents.
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16 years 2 months ago #189148
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This would be a no-go in my household, but YWMV.
Maybe if she has the aerobic capacity of Katie Compton , doesn't mind standing around being bored and cold while you ski, and doesn't care if you get back to the car an hour before she does it could work . . .
Replied by gregL on topic Re: Snowshoes and Skinning
Mixing significant others with backcountry adventures often requires delicate balance.
This would be a no-go in my household, but YWMV.
Maybe if she has the aerobic capacity of Katie Compton , doesn't mind standing around being bored and cold while you ski, and doesn't care if you get back to the car an hour before she does it could work . . .
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16 years 2 months ago #189149
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Replied by Scotsman on topic Re: Snowshoes and Skinning
How long have you been married??????? 
You wanna stay married?????
You wanna stay married?????
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16 years 2 months ago #189150
by trees4me
Replied by trees4me on topic Re: Snowshoes and Skinning
So 5 years ago all my wife could talk about was hiking and showshoeing. Now all she can talk about is skiing. She was more excited for snow this year than I was! I think we're selling our snowshoes.
Absolutely a good idea, go out and enjoy the outdoors any way you can. Be safe. Be patient.
Absolutely a good idea, go out and enjoy the outdoors any way you can. Be safe. Be patient.
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