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18 years 1 month ago #180349 by Charlie Hagedorn
Replied by Charlie Hagedorn on topic Re: Stupid Avalanche Control Techniques
On runs that are popular, I'm often worried about people ski-cutting above me. It's a well-regarded way to reduce hazard to a descending party, but I've never seen a discussion as to its use in crowded areas. I've always wanted to see a TAY discussion on it, but never really found the right time/way to ask.

This trip report sent chills down my spine - anyone who climbs what they ski would've been clobbered by the descending skier's big wet sluffs.

Edit: grammar.

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18 years 1 month ago #180350 by savegondor
Replied by savegondor on topic Re: Stupid Avalanche Control Techniques
yeah, there's a problem with not knowing who's below or not below you on a slope. which incidentally is still and issue for the skier.

But what if you did know, via a completely unobstructed view of the slide path? I'd love to be able to charge that sucker.

BTW, I did set off a good slide at Stevens off of Cowboy Ridge (which is supposed to be controlled). The slide did bury another skier's skis (which had been lost in an earlier slide) another 6 feet. I felt bad and wrong for having cut a avi slope above him. Should not have figured it had be bombed since it was inbounds. The slide went about 100 yards...

conclusion: not only should one not be skiing or skinning in an avi path or below one, but neither should someone cut or ski a probable sluff/slide slope above other skiers whatever it is they are doing.

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18 years 1 month ago #180351 by savegondor
Replied by savegondor on topic Re: Stupid Avalanche Control Techniques

yeah, there's a problem with not knowing who's below or not below you on a slope. which incidentally is still and issue for the skier.

But what if you did know, via a completely unobstructed view of the slide path? I'd love to be able to charge that sucker.

BTW, I did set off a good slide at Stevens off of Cowboy Ridge (which is supposed to be controlled). The slide did bury another skier's skis (which had been lost in an earlier slide) another 6 feet. I felt bad and wrong for having cut a avi slope above him. Should not have figured it had be bombed since it was inbounds. The slide went about 100 yards...

conclusion: not only should one not be skiing or skinning in an avi path or below one, but neither should someone cut or ski a probable sluff/slide slope above other skiers whatever it is they are doing.


and by that I mean, "hanging out" in a slide path. of course we will often need to cross one, if necessary, but just skinning up one b/c it is the easiest way...not a good idea.

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18 years 1 month ago #180352 by RonL
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That maybe a good discussion to have TrumpetSailor. I don't know that Guye peak is a popular line but it may become more so. For that particular line and really any similar chute, I would hope people entering it would be on the look out for recent tracks. The danger zone there is pretty apparent going up and down. If I saw someone's tracks heading up and none down yet, or a new pile of debri covering them, I would wait until they came down before entering. I hope everyone else would too because it is very prone to wash the spider out. I suppose someone could ascend the shoulder of snoqualomie mtn and enter the chute from the top without having climbed it? Give a warning yodel? It isn't my favorite line in the area because of the slough mgmt required (but it is fun). Buyer beware.

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18 years 1 month ago #180356 by Charlie Hagedorn
Replied by Charlie Hagedorn on topic Re: Stupid Avalanche Control Techniques
I'm not worried about that line in particular, just that ski-cutting is moderately high on the list of things to do when forced to descend a questionable slope.

Perhaps the right question is this: Are there times that any of you have wanted to ski-cut a slope, didn't for some reason, but skied it anyway?

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