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Steep: Glorifying extreme risk taking?

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18 years 3 weeks ago #180550 by Charlie Hagedorn
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Steep. Saw it; liked it - better than expected. Go if it calls you.

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18 years 2 weeks ago #180551 by Seth
My wife and I saw the film and liked. We thought it was well done and worth seeing. A bit of glorification but it is a tough thing to avoid.

My wife and I lived in LaGrave last year. Needless to say, with Doug and Chad's death, there was a lot of talk about risk taking and death. It was interesting to hear the difference between the guide's point of view and the wife of the guide's point of view. For the most part the guides accept that death is part of the "game". They don't have a death wish but they accept it could happen and put themselves in situations where if they fall they die. From what we have seen, the level of risk a guide is willing to take makes the life of a guide's wife stressful at times.

This aspect of the skiers featured in the film was not explored much in the film. It would have been interesting if they did.

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18 years 2 weeks ago #180558 by korup
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I agree with Squakmtn. And for the same reasons. I am looking for information. No one wants to spend several hours plodding into a location to find it all skied out, or find poor or dangerous ski conditions. [snip] What has been skied? What was the access like? What were the snow conditions? These are the same questions that you and your friends ask when planning a ski trip. This is the information that should be posted in “Trip Reports”


I don't mean to sound like a retro-grouch, but is some ways, isn't this what BC skiing is all about? Sometime the adventure in hiking for 4 hours in drizzle to find garbage snow *is* the whole point. IMHO, having a perfect TR to plan the perfect trip strikes me as missing out on some of what makes BC skiing so much more rewarding than lift-served.
"It doesn't have to be fun, to be fun."
That said, I have also been trying to get someone to climb a dirty ramp route in Squamish with me for years, so maybe I am just a little warped.

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18 years 2 weeks ago #180591 by bscott
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"Sometime the adventure in hiking for 4 hours in drizzle to find garbage snow *is* the whole point."

I used to do that too when I was young and dumb. With age comes wisdom, and I have found more fun things to do.

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18 years 2 weeks ago #180621 by silaswild
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Sky brought this up to me, the idea that this site is about conditions. What I post, though, once every few months are reports that aren't about conditions, but more about my thrill of going to amazing places. It's what excites me and I enjoy sharing it. More importantly, I like sharing it here, because I know many of you and know that you guys can relate. 

I agree with Squakmtn.  And for the same reasons. I am looking for information. No one wants to spend several hours plodding into a location to find it all skied out, or find poor or dangerous ski conditions.


Thanks Bryan and Jason for your excellent comments, since I agree completely!   :)
In return for the helpful information you get from TAY, thanks for returning the favor by posting your timely condition observations without worry of someone "stealing your stash."   It helps us  working stiffs optimize the few days we get to ski relative to the retirees and trustafarians.  Also, big thanks to Charles for building the site, enhancing it, de-spamming it, and keeping it civil.  Perhaps moderating TAY gives him ideas for child management duties, too!  :)

Back to Steep:  it was fun to see the development of steep skiing, hear the pleasure from the Italian "little superman" and Plake, who thanks skiing for every $ he ever earned.   Also great to see someone get other folks to pay for his fun skiing in Valdez, and a remote corners of the world explorer with his sat phone.  Helped me think of some of my favorite days, and glad that I am not yet bored with gentler terrain, no need to ski "you fall, you die" slopes yet!   Also was reminded of a steep skier who needs not venture out of our state, he continues to find enough local lines to keep himself entertained.

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18 years 2 weeks ago - 18 years 2 weeks ago #180632 by jd
I haven't seen the movie yet, but intend to rent the DVD when it's out. The trailer looks good, especially the historical perspective interviewing the old mountaineers (my generation). The cliff jumping / parachuting is fun to watch, but pure trickery as far as I'm concerned - I guess it sells though and they had to pay for the film.

This brings up an ongoing discussion/argument I have with a younger partner (like George & Jerry bantering about Superman vs Batman on Seinfeld). He buys all the TGR movies, reads Powder religiously, and knows the names of all the hot young skiers. Our argument is over who is better - the young guns who chopper in, jump cliffs, and blast the Chugach faces in 10 turns vs traditional ski mountaineers who climb a remote/high peak and ski a 1st descent. I think they are all great athletes, the movie stars may be quicker on their feet (I do like watching the videos I borrow from him), but I say the mountaineers are the real deal when you factor in the overall effort, commitment, and wide range of skills needed. I also like to point out that Europeans have been putting us to shame in the big mountain extreme skiing realm (and alpine climbing for that mater) for many years and continue to set the bar pretty high. I haven't heard about many of the TGR stars going over there and repeating the hardest big mountain descents.

It's all driving home BS for me though. I just want to get some exercise, have fun with my friends, ski powder, look at some beautiful scenery, and soak in the hot-tub afterwards.

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