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Steep: Glorifying extreme risk taking?
- Ken M
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Quote from Ed Viesturs-No Shortcut to The Top
I think it is simple. Most people love being in the mountains. In whatever form of sport. It's the shear beauty that attracks people.
I know of a couple who were potato farmers in North Dakota. They came out here 20 years ago to vacation. When they retired, they moved to Washington permanately because of "the beautiful mountains."
Last year , flying back from Indianapolis, after watching the Indy 500, and enduring almost perfectly flat land, a group of women, from Indianapolis, were oohing and ahhing about the "snow capped volcanos". It was comical to listen to them try and identify each one as we flew in to Seattle. They thought Mt. Adams was Mt. St. Helens, LOL!
I have lived in Washington all my life. I love the mountains. And probably don't realize how special they really are until someone from the outside drools over them.
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But for skiers in a film like this, I think there are other motivations at play. The elephant in the room, the one that nobody will talk about, is the quest for prestige. I think it's a big motivator for the kinds of stunts you see in these films. The ski community bestows prestige upon people who take risks and survive them.
I think Lowell has a good point here. As an example, look at some of the TR's in this forum. Rather than provide information on the conditions in various areas, they often appear to be no more than self-aggrandizement and posturing, or "look what I did" and (implicitly) "what you didn't." Often accompanied by the hackneyed and over-used adjectives: "epic", "blower pow", etc., etc. Much like what you might hear in the bar after a day of area skiing. I've been guilty of this myself, but try to restrain myself, or at least question my motives when I'm telling someone about my day. That being said, it is nice to be published, even if it is only the Internet.
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Rather than provide information on the conditions in various areas, they often appear to be no more than self-aggrandizement and posturing, or "look what I did" and (implicitly) "what you didn't." Often accompanied by the hackneyed and over-used adjectives: "epic", "blower pow", etc., etc. Much like what you might hear in the bar after a day of area skiing.
I've been noticing the same trend, but am sheepish to point it out since I too am guilty of involvement at times. Thanks for breaking the ice.
Many are still reporting on snow conditions and stability tests, etc. as they always have and that is appreciated. What about those who aren't? Are people doing the stability work and not sharing it, or just not doing it at all? There seems to be a cultural shift in numbers here, which is too bad, but probably inevititable with something as enjoyable as backcountry skiing/riding. Granted, as a former decade-plus long Alpental pass holder who switched to AT, I am certain there are many freeheeling fingers pointing to me as part of the...let's say "newer dynamic". But when I came to this site it was pretty clear what its values are and I still agree with them. As far as I understand it, it is a community that shares vital trip information with safety and building a knowledge base at heart... As a matter of fact, I think the site started as a tool for gathering detailed weather info. Pretty much nuts and bolts stuff needed to make informed decisions about backcountry travel.
Again, there is still meat on the bone in many reports. This combined with the eye candy these folks post keeps me checking in regularly. I think that many of us new timers need to remember that this sport comes with big responsibilities and that we can learn a lot (including how to write a helpful trip report) by paying attention to foundational culture of the site.
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