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11 years 11 months ago #221276 by gravitymk
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They were using 25 pound charges (pretty big as far as avy charges go).


Maybe but not unusual to use bag(s) of ANFO.

Crystal's owned by its shareholders... so unless she's a majority holder, no.


You are confusing Boyne with CNL

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11 years 11 months ago #221279 by flowing alpy
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Looks like they used a DJI Phantom drone...
www.dji.com/

just put it on the expense report at the end of the month, should be able to slide a few other items on it too.
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11 years 11 months ago #221280 by Good2Go
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It was as 40 pound charge and huge mistake IMO. If they had just left it alone, it would not have slid (as evidenced by the fact that no similar natural releases occurred during that period), and they wouldn't be replacing that chair this summer. Here's a link to a video confirming that the outcome was totally unanticipated:
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11 years 11 months ago - 11 years 11 months ago #221281 by BillK
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It might have slid at some point in time...all the ingredients were there, and they can't take the risk of killing people with an uncontrolled slide.  Closure for the season might have been another option, but the thing could still conceivably come down and kill someone.  This is all pretty obvious....don't want to insult your intelligence.

I see it as the lesser of several evils.  I do see your point, but since it is in their boundary they are responsible/liable for it.

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11 years 11 months ago #221282 by pipedream
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I think it all comes down to a desire to open that terrain. If they'd backed-off and left it closed (like they're doing with Northway), there would've been pressure from the skiing public to get it open, despite the huge control results they got on skier's right of Powder Bowl, wall-to-wall on Employee Housing & Niagaras, and in Bear Pits.

Obviously they didn't think it would slide that deep and move that far, otherwise they wouldn't have done it. But, without blasting that location they couldn't open High Campbell or the Upper Queen's run because of the obvious risk. Without High Campbell open, it's difficult to control Powder Bowl which means restricting access to Lucky Shot, which is a major connecting route in addition to a very popular run.

I don't disagree with the decision to go-ahead and bomb the Throne. I just think they should've adjusted their expectations of what would be the worst-case result. I imagine in the future, they will evaluate the vulnerability of their infrastructure vs. their desire to open terrain accordingly.

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11 years 11 months ago #221283 by Baltoro
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It was as 40 pound charge and huge mistake IMO.  If they had just left it alone, it would not have slid (as evidenced by the fact that no similar natural releases occurred during that period), and they wouldn't be replacing that chair this summer.  Here's a link to a video confirming that the outcome was totally unanticipated: 



I beg to differ. The freezing level is going up and having been at Crystal from Thursday night through Monday morning I can attest that there's a ton of new moisture in the snowpack. Super saturated. There's actually concerns about several large slide paths that could go naturally and have bad results.

If given the choice between "making it go with no loss of life but potential for property damage" or "roll the dice, hope nothing happens" I think they made the right call. I think their intention was to make the slope safe for the weather to come, not the weather we've had. What happened between the 7th (I skied it on the 7th) and when the slide happened is irrelevant.

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