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Avi Gear in summer?
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13 years 7 months ago #106836
by Koda
Avi Gear in summer? was created by Koda
I have always carried my avi gear on all ski tours even summer, but I've heard its not needed...
Who carries their beacon/shovel/probe etc. in summer ski-mountaineering routes? Who does not? Why/why not? Just curious what the community has to say. I've always though it less common but possible a slide could happen.
Who carries their beacon/shovel/probe etc. in summer ski-mountaineering routes? Who does not? Why/why not? Just curious what the community has to say. I've always though it less common but possible a slide could happen.
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13 years 7 months ago #106838
by -Josh-
Replied by -Josh- on topic Re: Avi Gear in summer?
Maybe I'm just paranoid but personally I always have my avy gear, even when riding inbounds typically. I usually keep rope and extra food in my pack as well. Just in case
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13 years 7 months ago #106991
by Pete_H
Replied by Pete_H on topic Re: Avi Gear in summer?
Typically no, unless there is unseasonble fresh snow. Slides in summer-like conditions indeed occur but are typically of the wet/slush slide variety which are more likely to inflict other damage than burial.
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13 years 7 months ago #107009
by Scotsman
Replied by Scotsman on topic Re: Avi Gear in summer?
Depends on the objective such as.
Mt Baker-Coleman Deming... probably yes although I didn't on my recent trip to the Interglacier .
Sunrise Chuting - nope.
Why? personal assessment of probability and older I get the lighter I need my pack to be.
Mt Baker-Coleman Deming... probably yes although I didn't on my recent trip to the Interglacier .
Sunrise Chuting - nope.
Why? personal assessment of probability and older I get the lighter I need my pack to be.
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13 years 7 months ago #107012
by Jonathan_S.
Replied by Jonathan_S. on topic Re: Avi Gear in summer?
This reminds me of variations I've had on the following conversation with various partners over the years before late-spring and early summer tours in the Sierra and PNW:
He- "Do you think we should bring avy rescue gear?"
Me- "Yes."
He- "So . . . you think our route might have avy danger?"
Me- "No."
He- "Then why should we bring avy rescue gear?!?"
Me- "In case I'm wrong."
That said, there are some tours and some combinations under which avalanches are just absolutely impossible, and bringing avy gear is totally pointless (except for the possibly non-avy uses of a shovel).
However, where to draw the line between "I might be wrong" vs "this is totally pointless" can be a hard call...
He- "Do you think we should bring avy rescue gear?"
Me- "Yes."
He- "So . . . you think our route might have avy danger?"
Me- "No."
He- "Then why should we bring avy rescue gear?!?"
Me- "In case I'm wrong."
That said, there are some tours and some combinations under which avalanches are just absolutely impossible, and bringing avy gear is totally pointless (except for the possibly non-avy uses of a shovel).
However, where to draw the line between "I might be wrong" vs "this is totally pointless" can be a hard call...
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13 years 7 months ago #107021
by andyski
Replied by andyski on topic Re: Avi Gear in summer?
ThisTypically no, unless there is unseasonble fresh snow. Slides in summer-like conditions indeed occur but are typically of the wet/slush slide variety which are more likely to inflict other damage than burial.
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