MSH From Red Rock Pass

I think you mean FR 81?

sorry my bad. you are correct, FS Rd 81 turns off at Cougar Snopark and goes over to Kalama Horse Camp.

Depending on the snow level, FS Rd 81 will open prior to FS Rd 830(Climbers Bivy @ 3800'). Red Rocks Pass elevation is about 3000' the 238A trail(Butte Camp Dome tr) exits tree line about 4600'.
www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/giffordpinchot/recarea/?recid=47022

At about 4200' the trail side hills a slope which can snow load and become quite steep, it can be traversed with care and caution.

I generally ski the Dryer GI fall line but will change it up depending on what looks best. This route will give you the most options of descent then the two standard climbing routes due to open terrain.

Don't want to drift post with a trip report about Monday.

Super useful information. Rainypm, thanks for the link. I would have thought that one would ascend the drainage leading to the red '20' on that map.

I'll give it a try some time! Thanks again for taking the time to reply...

Dave.

We went, status here: www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboardi...ex.php?topic=40583.0
If you wait for the gate to be open, the approach would be more reasonable.