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2019 snowpack - What a difference two weeks make
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02 Apr 2019 10:24 - 02 Apr 2019 10:38 #232809
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2019 snowpack - What a difference two weeks make was created by Lowell_Skoog
While he was at NWAC, Garth Ferber wrote a script that logs current snow depths at local ski areas and compares them to seasonal averages. The script runs on the 1st and 15th of each month. It generates a simple text page that may or may not be available through any of NWAC's public web pages. Here's a direct link to it:
data.nwac.us/CLISNO/CLISNO.TXT
I happened to check the page on March 15, near the end of our long cold spell:
CLIMATOLOGICAL SNOWDEPTH INFORMATION
NORTHWEST AVALANCHE CENTER SEATTLE WASHINGTON
DAYÂ 15Â MONTHÂ 3Â YEARÂ 2019
DATA IN INCHES, -99 DENOTES MISSING DATA
      CURRENT CLIMATE PER CENT  LAST THRU 2018 THRU 2018
      DEPTH  AVERAGE OF NORMAL YEAR MAX/YEAR  MIN/YEAR
HURRICANEÂ Â 75Â Â Â 101Â Â Â Â 74Â Â Â Â 110Â Â 252/1999Â Â Â 6/2015
MT BAKERÂ Â 145Â Â Â 163Â Â Â Â 89Â Â Â Â 181Â Â 305/1999Â Â 14/2015
STEVENSÂ Â Â 84Â Â Â 102Â Â Â Â 82Â Â Â Â 100Â Â 200/1956Â Â 18/2005
SNOQUALMIEÂ Â 86Â Â Â Â 91Â Â Â Â 95Â Â Â Â Â 93Â Â 195/1956Â Â Â 0/2015
STAMPEDEÂ Â Â 83Â Â Â 100Â Â Â Â 83Â Â Â Â -99Â Â 216/1964Â Â Â 0/2005
MISSIONÂ Â Â 43Â Â Â Â 46Â Â Â Â 93Â Â Â Â Â 45Â Â 83/1999Â Â Â 5/2015
CRYSTALÂ Â Â 69Â Â Â Â 69Â Â Â 100Â Â Â Â Â 74Â Â 136/1999Â Â Â 5/2015
PARADISEÂ Â 153Â Â Â 168Â Â Â Â 91Â Â Â Â 165Â Â 357/1956Â Â 34/2005
WHITE PASSÂ Â 55Â Â Â Â 57Â Â Â Â 96Â Â Â Â Â 53Â Â 132/1997Â Â Â 0/2015
TIMBERLINEÂ 142Â Â Â 147Â Â Â Â 97Â Â Â Â 141Â Â 258/1999Â Â 34/1981
MEADOWSÂ Â Â 124Â Â Â 123Â Â Â 101Â Â Â Â 102Â Â 288/1974Â Â 24/2005
Out of curiosity, I just checked the page again, after it was updated on April 1:
CLIMATOLOGICAL SNOWDEPTH INFORMATION
NORTHWEST AVALANCHE CENTER SEATTLE WASHINGTON
DAYÂ 1Â MONTHÂ 4Â YEARÂ 2019
DATA IN INCHES, -99 DENOTES MISSING DATA
      CURRENT CLIMATE PER CENT  LAST THRU 2018 THRU 2018
      DEPTH  AVERAGE OF NORMAL YEAR MAX/YEAR  MIN/YEAR
HURRICANEÂ Â 63Â Â Â 106Â Â Â Â 59Â Â Â Â 111Â Â 252/1999Â Â 12/2015
MT BAKERÂ Â 117Â Â Â 174Â Â Â Â 67Â Â Â Â 186Â Â 311/1999Â Â 17/2015
STEVENSÂ Â Â 63Â Â Â 100Â Â Â Â 63Â Â Â Â Â 97Â Â 192/1956Â Â 22/2015
SNOQUALMIEÂ Â 54Â Â Â Â 85Â Â Â Â 64Â Â Â Â Â 83Â Â 170/1956Â Â Â 2/1992
STAMPEDEÂ Â Â 64Â Â Â Â 99Â Â Â Â 65Â Â Â Â -99Â Â 183/1956Â Â 17/1992
MISSIONÂ Â Â 38Â Â Â Â 46Â Â Â Â 83Â Â Â Â Â 44Â Â 86/1983Â Â Â 0/2015
CRYSTALÂ Â Â 44Â Â Â Â 71Â Â Â Â 62Â Â Â Â Â 68Â Â 144/1999Â Â Â 6/2015
PARADISEÂ Â 124Â Â Â 174Â Â Â Â 71Â Â Â Â 171Â Â 327/1956Â Â 66/1941
WHITE PASSÂ Â 33Â Â Â Â 55Â Â Â Â 60Â Â Â Â Â 46Â Â 110/1997Â Â Â 0/1992
TIMBERLINEÂ 125Â Â Â 162Â Â Â Â 77Â Â Â Â 147Â Â 300/1999Â Â 57/2015
MEADOWSÂ Â Â 105Â Â Â 126Â Â Â Â 83Â Â Â Â Â 98Â Â 199/2008Â Â 33/2015
I've been suspecting that our almost-normal snowpack in early March was an illusion, due to a lot of cold, low density snow that fell in February. Looks like that's the case.
data.nwac.us/CLISNO/CLISNO.TXT
I happened to check the page on March 15, near the end of our long cold spell:
CLIMATOLOGICAL SNOWDEPTH INFORMATION
NORTHWEST AVALANCHE CENTER SEATTLE WASHINGTON
DAYÂ 15Â MONTHÂ 3Â YEARÂ 2019
DATA IN INCHES, -99 DENOTES MISSING DATA
      CURRENT CLIMATE PER CENT  LAST THRU 2018 THRU 2018
      DEPTH  AVERAGE OF NORMAL YEAR MAX/YEAR  MIN/YEAR
HURRICANEÂ Â 75Â Â Â 101Â Â Â Â 74Â Â Â Â 110Â Â 252/1999Â Â Â 6/2015
MT BAKERÂ Â 145Â Â Â 163Â Â Â Â 89Â Â Â Â 181Â Â 305/1999Â Â 14/2015
STEVENSÂ Â Â 84Â Â Â 102Â Â Â Â 82Â Â Â Â 100Â Â 200/1956Â Â 18/2005
SNOQUALMIEÂ Â 86Â Â Â Â 91Â Â Â Â 95Â Â Â Â Â 93Â Â 195/1956Â Â Â 0/2015
STAMPEDEÂ Â Â 83Â Â Â 100Â Â Â Â 83Â Â Â Â -99Â Â 216/1964Â Â Â 0/2005
MISSIONÂ Â Â 43Â Â Â Â 46Â Â Â Â 93Â Â Â Â Â 45Â Â 83/1999Â Â Â 5/2015
CRYSTALÂ Â Â 69Â Â Â Â 69Â Â Â 100Â Â Â Â Â 74Â Â 136/1999Â Â Â 5/2015
PARADISEÂ Â 153Â Â Â 168Â Â Â Â 91Â Â Â Â 165Â Â 357/1956Â Â 34/2005
WHITE PASSÂ Â 55Â Â Â Â 57Â Â Â Â 96Â Â Â Â Â 53Â Â 132/1997Â Â Â 0/2015
TIMBERLINEÂ 142Â Â Â 147Â Â Â Â 97Â Â Â Â 141Â Â 258/1999Â Â 34/1981
MEADOWSÂ Â Â 124Â Â Â 123Â Â Â 101Â Â Â Â 102Â Â 288/1974Â Â 24/2005
Out of curiosity, I just checked the page again, after it was updated on April 1:
CLIMATOLOGICAL SNOWDEPTH INFORMATION
NORTHWEST AVALANCHE CENTER SEATTLE WASHINGTON
DAYÂ 1Â MONTHÂ 4Â YEARÂ 2019
DATA IN INCHES, -99 DENOTES MISSING DATA
      CURRENT CLIMATE PER CENT  LAST THRU 2018 THRU 2018
      DEPTH  AVERAGE OF NORMAL YEAR MAX/YEAR  MIN/YEAR
HURRICANEÂ Â 63Â Â Â 106Â Â Â Â 59Â Â Â Â 111Â Â 252/1999Â Â 12/2015
MT BAKERÂ Â 117Â Â Â 174Â Â Â Â 67Â Â Â Â 186Â Â 311/1999Â Â 17/2015
STEVENSÂ Â Â 63Â Â Â 100Â Â Â Â 63Â Â Â Â Â 97Â Â 192/1956Â Â 22/2015
SNOQUALMIEÂ Â 54Â Â Â Â 85Â Â Â Â 64Â Â Â Â Â 83Â Â 170/1956Â Â Â 2/1992
STAMPEDEÂ Â Â 64Â Â Â Â 99Â Â Â Â 65Â Â Â Â -99Â Â 183/1956Â Â 17/1992
MISSIONÂ Â Â 38Â Â Â Â 46Â Â Â Â 83Â Â Â Â Â 44Â Â 86/1983Â Â Â 0/2015
CRYSTALÂ Â Â 44Â Â Â Â 71Â Â Â Â 62Â Â Â Â Â 68Â Â 144/1999Â Â Â 6/2015
PARADISEÂ Â 124Â Â Â 174Â Â Â Â 71Â Â Â Â 171Â Â 327/1956Â Â 66/1941
WHITE PASSÂ Â 33Â Â Â Â 55Â Â Â Â 60Â Â Â Â Â 46Â Â 110/1997Â Â Â 0/1992
TIMBERLINEÂ 125Â Â Â 162Â Â Â Â 77Â Â Â Â 147Â Â 300/1999Â Â 57/2015
MEADOWSÂ Â Â 105Â Â Â 126Â Â Â Â 83Â Â Â Â Â 98Â Â 199/2008Â Â 33/2015
I've been suspecting that our almost-normal snowpack in early March was an illusion, due to a lot of cold, low density snow that fell in February. Looks like that's the case.
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02 Apr 2019 10:28 #232810
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Pretty amazing how Snoqualmie Pass when from 95% of normal to 64% of normal in just two weeks.
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02 Apr 2019 11:11 #232811
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This certainly jives with my observations while out ski touring that our snowpack is below normal.
I wonder if the snow water equivalent has been below normal regardless, since most of our winter snow was so much colder than usual.
I wonder if the snow water equivalent has been below normal regardless, since most of our winter snow was so much colder than usual.
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02 Apr 2019 11:24 #232812
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I take a look at this periodically. It's available on the public homepage under Observations--> Snow Depth Climatology.
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02 Apr 2019 12:50 #232813
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Matches my observations, too. It would be interesting to compare to data from the SNOTEL network that is designed for hydrological instead of avalanche forecasting. A spot-check from
Amar's site
shows that the Lyman Lake SNOTEL site is having a below average year (to say anything conclusive would require a more systematic effort).
This certainly jives with my observations while out ski touring that our snowpack is below normal.
I wonder if the snow water equivalent has been below normal regardless, since most of our winter snow was so much colder than usual.
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02 Apr 2019 22:44 #232819
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The Glacier Creek Road lost over 4 miles of snowpack in two weeks and the forest went from skiable the whole way to bootpack the whole way. Mt Baker Ski Area may be dirt for the traditional Ski to Sea race route come Memorial Day. My fear is that this underestimates the true risk to our summer. The whole winter we remarked how high the snowline was. This may be the year we get east side and California style big burns on the west side.
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10 Apr 2019 20:28 #232852
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Drought declaration for parts of the state are not a good sign: ecology.wa.gov/Water-Shorelines/Water-su...Statewide-conditions
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