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7 years 10 months ago #231557 by rlsg
Replied by rlsg on topic Re: carving; tele vs. AT
many people can't execute parrallel as well as can't execute tele...including myself. maybe they are working on their stivets!! i have trouble tele carving into hockey stops...must be bad position...

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7 years 10 months ago #231565 by davidG
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What you all say may be true about a narrower range of suitably loading for carves, but I've always thought that Tele is a better position for running gates..

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7 years 10 months ago #231568 by Kneel Turner
Replied by Kneel Turner on topic Re: carving; tele vs. AT

Is there an inherent disadvantage to a tele turn?


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7 years 10 months ago #231579 by Chamois
Replied by Chamois on topic Re: carving; tele vs. AT

There is no logical or practical reason for using telemark gear.  However the feeling of tele skiing well is remarkable.  Many people on telemark gear don't execute it very well.  It takes more skill, strength and determination than fixed heel gear.


Having just picked up AT gear last year and going that way after 30 yr of tele - with no alpine experience, gotta say those fixed heels make a difference on edging and man, they get around qicker.

But I''ve noticed in transitions for up and downs or awkward stepups and such, the AT gear is a pain - they flop around more at the hinge while the tele still has some tension- or it's easier (with tele) to just flip the switch with a pole end to lock to downhill mode to get up and over some little hill. It's a pain to bend down and rework the ATs.

That said - the AT boots and bindings are anti-gravity compared to the heavy tele setup

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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #231582 by MW88888888
Replied by MW88888888 on topic Re: carving; tele vs. AT
Heavy tele setup?  I've gone completely around the bend (and potentially off my rocker) and am into the end of my first season on the lightest tele set up I now own - a pair of full leather alpina tele boots, simple three pin cables and ultra light Hagan skis.  I think they weigh a combined 5 pounds - lighter than any at/snowboard/plastic tele set up I've ever owned.

This setup by no means makes me a better tele skier, light and super easy on the hike in and climb up, but ever so sensitive to the skills (or lack thereof) of the oarsman.  Like a wooden dory on the Grand Canyon, there may be better and certainly safer ways down the river, but none that get you closer to the environment you're in.  I never really was all that great a tele skier, the allure of confidence in jump turning in a couloir made me grab my AT set up or snowboard way too often to improve my drop knee to more than "fair" in the best of conditions, but as I age, and the true definition of "pleasure" for cascading down a snow-filled slope foments and changes within me, I know what I can do on my snowboard or AT skis - anything, in just about any condition on any mountain slope - but on my light tele gear, well, that question is a long way away from being answered.

I am now super sensitive to the snow conditions, cautious of steep terrain and tight mandatory expert skills; the lightness of my gear a gift to uphill travel and long approaches and also ensures I am close to the mountain's vibrations, good or ill, and skiing once again like I am a teenager learning everything anew.

When I finally do get those skis to carve around together in a sinuous "s" with no wash outs, in groomer, ice or soft new snow, those are the fleeting moments that will last all summer long.

Long live my quest on tele skis, may it last another 24 years.

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7 years 10 months ago #231583 by Robie
Replied by Robie on topic Re: carving; tele vs. AT

Heavy tele setup?  I've gone completely around the bend (and potentially off my rocker) and am into the end of my first season on the lightest tele set up I now own - a pair of full leather alpina tele boots, simple three pin cables and ultra light Hagan skis.  I think they weigh a combined 5 pounds - lighter than any at/snowboard/plastic tele set up I've ever owned


Long live my quest on tele skis, may it last another 24 years.


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