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AT vs Alpine in the Resort ???
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8 years 2 days ago #231084
by dave095790
AT vs Alpine in the Resort ??? was created by dave095790
Problem:Â after many years of Tele and Rando Racing, with almost no give-a-fuck for locked-heel downhill form or technique, I am very interested in bringing myself back into top locked-heel downhill form.Â
Complicating Factors: I have ultralight AT gear (TLT5, TLT6 boots, RT bindings, LaSpo skis) and some mid-weight AT gear (Vulcan boots, Ion LT 12 and Kingpin bindings, DPS skis). I do not have any resort specific, downhill focused equipment.Â
Possible part of solution:Â I am considering taking advantage of the current available sales to get a real alpine boot, binding, and ski combo to utilize inbounds instead of skiing the Vulcan/Kingpin/DPS combo.Â
Hesitation:Â The Vulcan/Kingpin/DPS combo is damn good, boarderline as good as any downhill alpine combo and am not sure the price, hassel is worth it ...
What does the TAY collective think?
Will it matter?Â
Will the improved performance in bounds translate to better performance in the AT gear?Â
Do all of you have your touring rig and then your resort rig?
I have been working with some professional instructors at Stevens to get rid of years of bag habits ..
Complicating Factors: I have ultralight AT gear (TLT5, TLT6 boots, RT bindings, LaSpo skis) and some mid-weight AT gear (Vulcan boots, Ion LT 12 and Kingpin bindings, DPS skis). I do not have any resort specific, downhill focused equipment.Â
Possible part of solution:Â I am considering taking advantage of the current available sales to get a real alpine boot, binding, and ski combo to utilize inbounds instead of skiing the Vulcan/Kingpin/DPS combo.Â
Hesitation:Â The Vulcan/Kingpin/DPS combo is damn good, boarderline as good as any downhill alpine combo and am not sure the price, hassel is worth it ...
What does the TAY collective think?
Will it matter?Â
Will the improved performance in bounds translate to better performance in the AT gear?Â
Do all of you have your touring rig and then your resort rig?
I have been working with some professional instructors at Stevens to get rid of years of bag habits ..
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8 years 1 day ago #231091
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Replied by filbo on topic Re: AT vs Alpine in the Resort ???
Interesting ? Dave and I am looking forward to reading replys. I am leaning your way in respect to resort skiing but only because my age 71 has changed how keen I am to tour compared to say just ten years ago. I am not a hard pack skier at the resort, but I am still a powder hound any day it snows, as well as a much more frequent side country guy compared to all day touring.
My resort and side country set up is a bit old but solid for any resort skiing I care to do.
Scarpa Spirit 4's==4 buckle boots at about 4lbs per boot. This is my one quiver boot.
Marker Barons with a Din range up to 12 if you want it.
Hart Outbacks 178 132-105-123
My tour set up is another pair of Outbacks with Dynafit Vertical St's.
My 4 buckle AT boot and AT binder handle all I wish to ski at the resort and then some, but I am not bump or speed skiing and keep my skis down in the pow and not hucking anything these days.
Best on your finding a solution.
My resort and side country set up is a bit old but solid for any resort skiing I care to do.
Scarpa Spirit 4's==4 buckle boots at about 4lbs per boot. This is my one quiver boot.
Marker Barons with a Din range up to 12 if you want it.
Hart Outbacks 178 132-105-123
My tour set up is another pair of Outbacks with Dynafit Vertical St's.
My 4 buckle AT boot and AT binder handle all I wish to ski at the resort and then some, but I am not bump or speed skiing and keep my skis down in the pow and not hucking anything these days.
Best on your finding a solution.
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8 years 1 day ago #231092
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Replied by altasnob on topic Re: AT vs Alpine in the Resort ???
Have not skied Vulcan/Kingpin/DPS but I have skied resorts for several years on Scarpa Maestrale RS/Dynafit Vertical ST/Voile V8. In powder good, everything else, not good. So not good that I bought a snowboard and now prefer to snowboard when I am in bounds (snowboard setup is way cheaper than alpine ski gear). I am envious of other skiers' heavy, stiff, alpine gear but can't justify buying alpine gear for the limited days I ski in bounds.
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8 years 1 day ago #231093
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Replied by ridngoofy on topic Re: AT vs Alpine in the Resort ???
My wife and I like to do a mulitple days in Whistler where we spend a day in bounds and a day out of bounds. So I upgraded my boots this year to Atomic Hawx 130 and I am liking them. A little stiff but they work work for the dual purpose coupled with Marker Kingin. However, I bought the Tecton for my wife and these did not work out.
www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboardi...ex.php?topic=39645.0
So now I am getting re-educated on bindings.
www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboardi...ex.php?topic=39645.0
So now I am getting re-educated on bindings.
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8 years 1 day ago #231094
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Replied by skibacks on topic Re: AT vs Alpine in the Resort ???
I switched from Dynafits to Kingpins after a couple
slide for lifes on hardsnow Middle Ferks at Crystal.
The heel retention on the Kingpins is superior for my
72" 210 lb 7 din skiing - both on and off piste.
I use the Tecnica Zero G Guide Pro boot as a daily driver and the weight and traction
Are awesome on the Southback hikes. Based on my read, I would try a few resort days on your Kingpins before you blow some dough on a new setup.
And.... I'll be 70 next week.
slide for lifes on hardsnow Middle Ferks at Crystal.
The heel retention on the Kingpins is superior for my
72" 210 lb 7 din skiing - both on and off piste.
I use the Tecnica Zero G Guide Pro boot as a daily driver and the weight and traction
Are awesome on the Southback hikes. Based on my read, I would try a few resort days on your Kingpins before you blow some dough on a new setup.
And.... I'll be 70 next week.
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8 years 1 day ago - 8 years 1 day ago #231095
by Randito
Replied by Randito on topic Re: AT vs Alpine in the Resort ???
Many of the resorts have "Demo Centers" where you can rent high performance alpine gear.  Why not give that a whirl ?
FWIW: My resort / sidecountry setup is Scarpa Freedom SL 130s and Vipec bindings. More solid feel than regular Dynafit heelpieces and I do like the toe release.
FWIW: My resort / sidecountry setup is Scarpa Freedom SL 130s and Vipec bindings. More solid feel than regular Dynafit heelpieces and I do like the toe release.
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