MSH Permit Fiasco

Man, they basically broke the internet. Permit sales have been suspended until Feb 5th so the vendor can un-fubar things. Reportedly demand _blew away_ that from last year and earlier.

Dave.

...loved to death

Various news reports state that 3500 people tried to get permits on opening day in 2017. In 2018, the number was 11,000.

That's a bit sobering.

Dave.

Midweek.

Nope. All of summer (may --> oct) was basically gone in a few hours, mid-week included.

Basically, anything pre-April (no permit limits) and you're good.

I've just marveled at the increases in usage of outdoor areas. Here in Oregon, the usage of Three Sisters Wilderness DOUBLED in the past 4 years. So, permits are coming our way for that area. There is no denying the over-use and resource damage.


D.

Not sure why we should care too much about permits anyway. Took a friend to Rainier last summer. He had sent in request for a solo permit well beforehand. When he presented himself at the ranger station, they had not "processed" his application and would not do it on the spot. I advised him just to go for it which he did, successfully. Later I tried to get a permit for MSH. Totally sold out. Went anyway, permitless, and was surprised by a largely vacant mtn. So bag and carry off your shit. That seems to be all they really care about.