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Uphill policy in Ski areas

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9 years 2 days ago #228787 by Stügie
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Yes, indeed.  We do need a collective effort of conscientious backcountry skiers to organize for road access/plowing.  It's been done before with other mountain sports around here....  With the popularity of bc skiing in one of the more wealthy areas of the world, the possibility for perhaps even a co-op to form to assist the state in accomplishing such a goal seems feasible. Growth is inevitable, we are seeing it everywhere including the hills, and this state is overly tight about recreational expansion/huts/etc.  I lean rather on the side of conservationist for sure, but there is room to open.   


Absolutely. Well stated and couldn't agree more. However, in addition to the original post, and in having the honor to spend years touring with some truly awesome people and backcountry skiers/splitboarders from this community, I would add this: There are also countless touring options from a ski resort's base that allow a group to avoid a ski area's patrolling, essentially mitigating the "uphill traffic" scenario altogether. It would help if as a collective, we were to put emphasis on this aspect.

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9 years 2 days ago #228788 by frankfrank
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Here is an old thread discussing where we might like to see improved winter access.

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9 years 1 day ago #228789 by haggis
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Freeski, you are trolling.

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9 years 1 day ago #228796 by WoodyD
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From realistic to unrealistic:

Plow to Sunrise.

Plow Mountaineers Creek road to Stuart Lake TH.

Plow Icicle Creek Rd to the end.

Plow Chinook Pass.

Plow Washington Pass.

Plow Smith Brook Rd over to Lake Wenatchee. Plow Spur up to Little Wenatchee River TH.

Plow Chiwawa River Road to Trinity/Spider Meadow road spur.

How about a euro style tram to 6000' anywhere in those areas.... that would really help the BC access.

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9 years 1 day ago #228797 by theCougAbides
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It wouldn't just be a matter of plowing more roads. The roads would either have to be totally out of potential avalanche paths, or would have to be controlled for avalanches. It would be killer to have any of the roads that WoodyD listed be open in the winter, but it's unlikely due to avy danger (at least of the roads he listed that I know). More realistic would be the White River Campground or Mowich Lake roads. The NPS could make their money back from visitors to the park and camping permits, and decrease the numbers at Paradise.

I hear things like "don't listen to ski patrol, you have just as much right to be there as they do" or "it's public land, they can't kick you off" all too often. Educating to eliminate or decrease that attitude might be more realistic than getting more access in avalanche prone areas. Even without opening more roads, there are plenty of places that we can currently go. Some of them are popular enough that you might cross a few ski tracks on the way down.

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9 years 1 day ago #228801 by CookieMonster
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How does your company ensure the public safety in the bc areas in which you have a special use permit to operate. Do you do avy control work,ie ski cut the avy start zones while out with clients or prior to a client tour?

I'm guessing that you are experienced enough to ensure that the path is clear of other users, and that your skin tracks are located in as safe a location as possible, but what action would you take if one of your guides ski cut an avalanche down on another touring group?


Also, do you report any avalanche near miss incidents on your business web pages so that potential clients can make informed decisions on whether or not they want to hire your
company's services?


I know you have an axe to grind with guided skiing operations, but perhaps you could put it away while the original questions are addressed.

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