Home > Forum > Categories > Random Tracks > Mt Shasta gets 3 ft new snow in 24 hrs!! 07Feb2015

Mt Shasta gets 3 ft new snow in 24 hrs!! 07Feb2015

  • DG
  • User
  • User
More
11 years 1 week ago #223788 by DG

This is what is weird this is happening in a year that is not an El Nino.  We should be fearful of that.


I'd have to agree - El Nino never really materialized this year but it sure feels like it did. What happens when a strong one kicks in?

The mere fact that ski resorts are built at places like Snoqualmie Pass and SkiBowl (3800' ft on Mt Hood) suggest that low/mid elevation snowpack used to be more dependable. Skibowl is onto its third or fourth dismal year in a row and I don't think any of those were El Ninos.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Floater
  • User
  • User
More
11 years 1 week ago #223810 by Floater
Aaron, we have never had a lot of true powder here in the PNW very often due to us having too high humidity and its impact on snow crystals and snow density. This is why I often go inland to find the good stuff. If you want true powder you better head inland. That was the case even back in earlier decades. However, saying that we used to have more days of powder like conditions in earlier years. I will say this I have experienced deeper dumps more often recently and it seems to come when it comes in intense amounts. this does produce a few more avvie issues.

However early years did produce doozies in the lowlands....1969, 1955, 1950, 1916 and several ones in the late 1800s produced massive dumps in the lowlands. Some of those were showstoppers. Unless we have a massive volcano eruption, I think those days are gone for huge lowland snow events around here now if you are in Boston that is a different story.

Yes it was rare even in earlier years that you could skate on the lakes. It was about once every five years or so normally during La Ninjas as you have noted. However, it is now going on close to 15 to 20 years since the local one Long Lake was safe to skate. Recent La Ninyas have not had enough cold in them to do the trick down here at sea level, but you still got good skiing 98-99 was epic. Now during the period Amar calls the Golden Years in the 1950s and the 1960s I can remember two winters where lake Stevens froze so thick that you could drive a car on it. When was the last time that has happened since......never. I am not expecting a nice freeze on Long lake in any year in the future for skating is my prediction.

Folks the weather is changing........it is warming up....around here. Oh and in Alaska what is going on is downright amazing. The further North you go the changes are even more dramatic. If you are not seeing it you have your head in the dirt.....I would say snow but there is not enough of it to put your head in....LOL.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Floater
  • User
  • User
More
11 years 1 week ago #223812 by Floater
This is what is freaky about this year. In a horrible year here you can go South to California and work Tahoe and further south and I mean at the elevations where their ski areas are. This year not so they are also hurting although Kirkwood did get a dump of heavy stuff 7-20" in the past couple of days. That is just a flurry for that place in a big year. However, the California ski area snow bases are a sad joke as well.

Yeah you can always go high like Shasta, but that does not leave you much of the range to play with and closes the door on a lot of ski areas. Talking big dumps over 6k is like a bad joke, it does not leave you much of the range left to play with and where you are playing is high windy and exposed which often turns the snow to crap. A pig is a pig call it what it is a pig.

Now all this could change the Sierras have always been known for their mondo dumps. I can remember in 2004-2005 it was crazy in Tahoe. The facades on quite a few of the building in Truckee collapsed and Kirkwood went crazy. I was in a car for a month down that way. Slept in my car in Kirkwood could not open the door had to climb out the window the dump was so big 60 inches overnight BE BIG in the parking lot. You could ski all the way down to the suburbs in Reno from one of the areas. It was awesome. Not this year that is what is weird it is almost as bad as here.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Floater
  • User
  • User
More
11 years 1 week ago #223813 by Floater
One clarification 6k Fls is not a problem in the Sierra it is a huge problem here.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Pete_H
  • User
  • User
More
11 years 1 week ago #223820 by Pete_H
I'm not a climate change denier or anything but I do think we are just in an a bad cycle that is independent of climate change. Except for a few outliers we've had good years throughout the 90's and 00's. I also can remember quite a few lowland snows. I remember skiing off Phinney Ridge to Green Lake 6 or 7 years ago. Also, Look at the east coast. They are having an especially cold and snowy winter. Just got to wait until the cycle swings back around.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • aaron_wright
  • User
  • User
More
11 years 1 week ago #223823 by aaron_wright
I remember 4 or 5 years ago my folks had 4' of snow on the ground east of Stanwood at 1200'.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.