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5 Best Low Avalanche Hazard Routes

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11 years 9 months ago - 11 years 9 months ago #221991 by Jim Oker
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Ok, with that clarification, for considerable hazard days where I'm still willing to go out (e.g. sounds like the problem is not storm slab on all aspects, which still tends to lead me and my cautious partners toward the figure 11 thing which, while still better than cleaning the office perhaps, is not as fun to me as getting the dog out for a rain hike or going for an XC ski where we can get some nice flowing kick-and-glide going; and we don't have several feet of new snow so if a slide happens the consequences will almost surely be dramatic), bfree lists a few good options that I've used (not as confident about Union, but that may just be lack of familiarity - though at minimum I'm wary of where the road starts switchbacking which is clearly a slide path). Rampart Ridge's west forested slopes, accessed from Gold Creek has some nice steep trees that can be OK on a Considerable day as long as you avoid venturing into the obvious slide path, and are watching conditions and managing terrain carefully (see ash-j's AIRE 1 suggestion). This is where I saw a partner kick off an attention-getting pocket slab on a considerable day... Radio Tower ridge behind Summit Central can be OK as well (all the same caveats and fine print apply...). Another step down the highway, similar aspects (as well as S) up high on Margaret can be OK too, though getting to them is the trick. Some guidebooks describe one approach, but this route is well protected by the aversion of sharing a route with lots of snowmobiles (and don't park in the tight spaces between their trucks/trailers unless you like having your car vandalized! and be friendly when you encounter them out there on the terrain they're sharing with you!!). There are some similar options down past Yodelin on 2.

Part of the trick is getting out there and meditating on maps and being willing to spend some days exploring instead of reaping so that you can discover your own go-to routes for such days. This can be part of the fun of the sport. [preaching]Don't expect others to just serve this all up on a platter - it's no one's responsibility to ensure that you don't venture onto overly risky routes on such days just because you haven't done your own homework![/preaching]

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11 years 9 months ago #221992 by BillK
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  I’m more used to having discussions with snow or ice climbers in a face to face environment where the default response is to share beta when possible. 


Climbers are usually true mountaineers with less to prove...their activities speak for themselves.

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11 years 9 months ago - 11 years 9 months ago #221993 by Jim Oker
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I've seen that skiers are often quite willing to share beta in a f2f environment as well. The sense of scarcity around easily accessed powder, along with concerns about making "safeness "claims to a sizeable anonymous audience regarding routes on which it's not hard to find trouble, leads many of us to be more cagey about providing a yellow-brick-road here on the interwebz with the rather large audience. Just look at views versus posts on this thread for some insight into what leads to this dynamic...

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11 years 9 months ago #221994 by powscraper
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And what was your constructive contribution in response to the OP? I think that sharing what we actually do on high hazard days is pretty spot-on as a response to the question posed at top.

OK, I'll post a few book suggestions - the XC ski tours 1 and 2 books by the Mountaineers, authored by Kirkendall. I don't know if they're still in print but they are surely still purchasable via online avenues even if out of print. Years of good high hazard conditions fun to be had listed in there.


You're right, well I agree with a few of the previous calls (Kendall Stump, Yodelin for example)
Also I hear Hyak can be good, though I haven't actually been there and I seem to remember it sliding fairly significantly at some point in the not too distant past
Pilchuck area has some moderate terrain
Paradise 'environs,' there are some moderate slopes out there, for example eastward of the parking lot, also some mellow treed stuff in the Tatoosh valley if you stay out of the big bowls

I stand behind the AIARE 1 suggestion which is totally sincere. The latest decision making/route choice/uncertainty emphasis is perfect for someone asking these kinds of questions

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11 years 9 months ago #221995 by Jim Oker
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You are right, AIRE 1 is very much a positive and appropriate suggestion on such a thread.

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11 years 9 months ago #221996 by Jason4
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I should start by saying that I'm probably more risk tolerant than I should be but still make conservative line choices based on 20+ years of snowboarding in the same general area.  I know specific terrain features and have had good luck reading them on days that are touchy but I still consider myself to have been lucky at times.

Usually on "high" days I'm lapping the chair lift although not always within the ski area boundaries.  I trust the pro patrollers to do their jobs well. 

On "considerable" days I'll venture a little further out but usually not too far from the ski area unless the avalanche concerns are very specific to falling cornices or loose wet slides.  I feel comfortable standing on top of something when loose wet slides are the problem.  If I had to hit the skin track on a considerable day I'd probably head for Swift Creek or Artist Point and return by following the skintrack.  There is still some objective hazard in both areas that should not be ignored.

Anything less than considerable makes me feel comfortable with exploring but I still keep my guard up.

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