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F1 or tlt 5?
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12 years 4 months ago #210587
by jenklaud
F1 or tlt 5? was created by jenklaud
Hi- I'm a newb, trying to get my first UL AT setup together. I am excited to do some multi-day ski tours as well as day trips. I have some Nordic and some alpine experience. I'm mostly excited to use skis to get out to the backcountry (rather than stoked to bomb some steep pow), though I enjoy turns.
I've had ACL surgery, and I'm not a terribly great skier, so I'm pretty decided on light Rando gear (as opposed to bc Nordic or tele gear).
I can get the Scarpa F1s on sale in my size for $255 or tlt5s for $360. Are the tlt5s worth the extra $100 for a newb? I'm thinking of driving something like vector bcs, or something else waxless (rolling cascade terrain). Whattaya think?
I've had ACL surgery, and I'm not a terribly great skier, so I'm pretty decided on light Rando gear (as opposed to bc Nordic or tele gear).
I can get the Scarpa F1s on sale in my size for $255 or tlt5s for $360. Are the tlt5s worth the extra $100 for a newb? I'm thinking of driving something like vector bcs, or something else waxless (rolling cascade terrain). Whattaya think?
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12 years 4 months ago #210588
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Replied by christoph benells on topic Re: F1 or tlt 5?
The f1 bellowed toe is nice, especially if your doing the scaled ski deal.
The tlt would be better if your ever gonna step it up onto the ski mountaineering arena though.
Both are a great choice.
The tlt would be better if your ever gonna step it up onto the ski mountaineering arena though.
Both are a great choice.
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12 years 4 months ago - 12 years 4 months ago #210591
by gregL
The tradeoff with ultralight gear is less power and precision while skiing downhill. I've seen very very good skiers turned to hacks while wearing F1's in challenging conditions. The TLT5 boots aren't exactly confidence-inspiring in crust or mank either, but they're quite a bit better than F1's. If you're already "not a terribly great skier" in alpine boots, you might think in terms of a slightly heavier but considerably more powerful boot like the Dynafit Mercury or One PX.
Edit: If by "getting out to the backcountry" you mean never skiing anything remotely steep or consequential, then the bellowed F1 will be the more appropriate option; it excels at rolling terrain.
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I've had ACL surgery, and I'm not a terribly great skier, so I'm pretty decided on light Rando gear (as opposed to bc Nordic or tele gear).
The tradeoff with ultralight gear is less power and precision while skiing downhill. I've seen very very good skiers turned to hacks while wearing F1's in challenging conditions. The TLT5 boots aren't exactly confidence-inspiring in crust or mank either, but they're quite a bit better than F1's. If you're already "not a terribly great skier" in alpine boots, you might think in terms of a slightly heavier but considerably more powerful boot like the Dynafit Mercury or One PX.
Edit: If by "getting out to the backcountry" you mean never skiing anything remotely steep or consequential, then the bellowed F1 will be the more appropriate option; it excels at rolling terrain.
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12 years 4 months ago #210592
by jenklaud
Replied by jenklaud on topic Re: F1 or tlt 5?
Thanks for the feedback.
I'm not considering heavier AT gear for the reasons I mentioned. The light AT gear is a compromise (for this ultralight backpacker) instead of Nordic gear. So, compared to Nordic, the light AT stuff should give me considerably MORE control. I am not a great skier on Nordic gear. My goal is multi day tours on mostly rolling terrain.
I would, some day, like to get into mountaineering, but I think much of my time will be spent in more rolling terrain.
I'm not considering heavier AT gear for the reasons I mentioned. The light AT gear is a compromise (for this ultralight backpacker) instead of Nordic gear. So, compared to Nordic, the light AT stuff should give me considerably MORE control. I am not a great skier on Nordic gear. My goal is multi day tours on mostly rolling terrain.
I would, some day, like to get into mountaineering, but I think much of my time will be spent in more rolling terrain.
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12 years 4 months ago #210594
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Replied by mikerolfs on topic Re: F1 or tlt 5?
I love my F1's. I think the bellows makes them great for walking. But I telemark with them, and I think to use AT bindings you have to insert a space filler under your foot. This seems like a headache, so if I was going to lock my heel, I'd get the TLT's.
I use the Vector BC for my summer ski. I rarely find the scales adequate for climbing anything. I don't think I would buy the scaled version again. If I'm going uphill with my skis on, I use skins, even with the BC.
I use the Vector BC for my summer ski. I rarely find the scales adequate for climbing anything. I don't think I would buy the scaled version again. If I'm going uphill with my skis on, I use skins, even with the BC.
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12 years 4 months ago #210600
by jenklaud
Replied by jenklaud on topic Re: F1 or tlt 5?
Thanks for all of the help, folks. I ordered 2 sizes of the tlt for a bit more versatility as I cover more terrain. So, hopefully one or the other can be made to fot my foot! Thanks for the welcome... On to more ski/binding research!
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