Ap,8th,2013, Scarpa AT boots in my Alpine Bindings

The Atomic Centro 412 is indeed recalled. Well, it's on the recall list. What that means is certain models in a specific "batch" had bad heels. So if your heel piece happens to be made from the bad "batch" then you simply send it to Atomic, and they will send you a new heel piece. I do believe though, that an authorized Atomic dealer needs to send it in, i.e. a ski shop.

As far as putting your new boots into that binding.... it doesn't have an adjustable toe height. So from a ski shop point of view, they legally aren't allowed to do it. Really it's the rubber sole that won't release properly with the AFD on the binding. I currently ski rubber soled touring boots, in Marker race bindings for my resort set up. I know they won't release properly, but I also have my DIN cranked and don't want them to release.

So in a nut shell, yes you can do it, but if you like having your skis pop off when you fall, I'd be hesitant. And as far as the recall of the binding, I would get them sent in to Atomic. I've seen one come back that was in the "bad batch" and the whole heel piece cracked in half...Just saying, it's easier to deal with than a knee injury.

Good luck!

The Atomic Centro 412 is indeed recalled. Well, it's on the recall list. What that means is certain models in a specific "batch" had bad heels. So if your heel piece happens to be made from the bad "batch" then you simply send it to Atomic, and they will send you a new heel piece. I do believe though, that an authorized Atomic dealer needs to send it in, i.e. a ski shop.

It was recalled but the recall is over. I bought a new heel piece from play it again sports for $25 so my R11's are good to go again.

As far as putting your new boots into that binding.... it doesn't have an adjustable toe height. So from a ski shop point of view, they legally aren't allowed to do it. Really it's the rubber sole that won't release properly with the AFD on the binding. I currently ski rubber soled touring boots, in Marker race bindings for my resort set up. I know they won't release properly, but I also have my DIN cranked and don't want them to release.

The toe piece is adjustable and I adjusted it. I looked it up and the Tornado's were sold to work with Alpine Bindings according to Scarpa so I'm feeling pretty good. I scratched the bottom of my old Dalbello's and the new Scarpa's and could tell that Scarpa put a harder "more plastic" material above the AFD. I'm good with all I've heard and will be happy to race down an easy GS with no fear.

So in a nut shell, yes you can do it, but if you like having your skis pop off when you fall, I'd be hesitant. And as far as the recall of the binding, I would get them sent in to Atomic. I've seen one come back that was in the "bad batch" and the whole heel piece cracked in half...Just saying, it's easier to deal with than a knee injury.

Good luck!

Thanks for the info. When my original heel failed I didn't even know it. I was going to let my Nephew use the skis and was adjusting the bindings when I noticed that the heels would pop open with very minor pressure - no matter what the din setting was. The scary part was that I used these fast skis for high speed groomer days! I have no idea how long the heels were loose.