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Backcountry Dance Party... really?

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13 years 1 month ago #207877 by mikerolfs
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I think speaker-guy was rude.  We should all be less tolerant of rudeness.  In small town past, this would get back to his folks who would box his ears and let him know that his behavior reflects poorly on his family and his town.  However, we don't live in small-town America, and we are largely free of the social pressure of being known.  In an anonymous society people need feedback from strangers or they are not aware that their behavior is inappropriate.  While I believe this, I don't live it.  I tolerate and avoid rather than try to correct.  I'm pretty sure that fits the first definition of 'hypocrite'.

I also don't like ear buds or headphones.  I don't like them on people in the ski area and I don't like them on people outside of the ski area.  I think headphones insulate the user from the rest of the world and make the user a danger to the rest of us.

   

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13 years 1 month ago #207879 by Andrew Carey
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I think speaker-guy was rude.  We should all be less tolerant of rudeness.  In small town past, this would get back to his folks who would box his ears and let him know that his behavior reflects poorly on his family and his town.  However, we don't live in small-town America, and we are largely free of the social pressure of being known.  In an anonymous society people need feedback from strangers or they are not aware that their behavior is inappropriate.  While I believe this, I don't live it.  I tolerate and avoid rather than try to correct.  I'm pretty sure that fits the first definition of 'hypocrite'.
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The first part of this statement is profound; we are so many, so diverse, so mobile, and so anonymous we no longer have norms; norms are only enforced by the community; few of us have a true community.

However, I think feedback from strangers is as likely to engender hostility as it is consciousness.  In my studies of cognitive pyschology and behavior modification, it became clear that discussions, warnings, signs, etc. are all ineffective in promoting desired behaviour; only consequences matter and these need to be personal, immediate, and certain (PIC); constructing a character that recognizes civility, promotes respect for others, enforces boundaries, and ensures rational thinking then depends on feedback from family during early life.  Now, behavior can be changed later in life through a strong program of PIC negative reinforcement and positive punishment (not what you think, this is pysch jargon).  In other words a slap upside the head (however, that is illegal) and positive reinforcement like praise/rewards for good behavior combined with removing obstacles to good behavior (like RonL putting skin track near his snowshoe track) can work.

In other words, grin and bear it ;D

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13 years 1 month ago #207895 by Jason4
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What kind of techno was it? If it was dubstep then I wouldn't worry too much about it, I suspect it's just a trend that will pass by the end of the season. If it was house or D&B then it might be a more persistent hazard. You might want to invest in some earplugs and get used to the muted clack-clack of your own skintrack rhythm.

Bagley Lake area was a mess this weekend and not just because of techno music and snowshoeing in the skin track. I talked to an elderly couple on Martha's ladder as they commented on my difficulty kickturning in the midst of snowshoe tracks. I let them know that smooth skin tracks are easier to deal with and asked if they could stick with the rougher snowshoe track. They kindly obliged.

I'm more offended by the people that traversed across the slope either climbing from the bottom of the west end of the bowl all the way to the corner of the cat track at Austin Pass or the ones that got 1/2 down Blueberry 2 and then traversed across the hill as far as possible to reduce walking. I'm even more offended by the people who skinned directly up the face of Table instead of going out and back up the ridge. I know that avy conditions were very favorable in the last few days but sluff was running pretty heavy in spots and good habits should be reinforced all the time, not just when they are convenient. I could go on but I think I'm just wearing out my keyboard for no reason.

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13 years 1 month ago #207898 by Jonn-E
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  If it was dubstep then I wouldn't worry too much about it, I suspect it's just a trend that will pass by the end of the season. 


God I hope not!

I find the noise pollution from plate bindings ruins my dynafit experience.

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13 years 1 month ago #207902 by Jason4
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God I hope not!

I find the noise pollution from plate bindings ruins my dynafit experience.


Good thing I just switched from straps to plates to dynafits this last week. :D

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13 years 1 month ago #207906 by Scotsman
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I think speaker-guy was rude.  We should all be less tolerant of rudeness.  In small town past, this would get back to his folks who would box his ears and let him know that his behavior reflects poorly on his family and his town.  However, we don't live in small-town America, and we are largely free of the social pressure of being known.  In an anonymous society people need feedback from strangers or they are not aware that their behavior is inappropriate.  While I believe this, I don't live it.  I tolerate and avoid rather than try to correct.  I'm pretty sure that fits the first definition of 'hypocrite'.

I also don't like ear buds or headphones.  I don't like them on people in the ski area and I don't like them on people outside of the ski area.  I think headphones insulate the user from the rest of the world and make the user a danger to the rest of us.


But taking a shotgun into the backcountry on a tour and skeet shooting snowballs with albeit steel pellets is OK then?

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