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Advice for a 2-3 day pack?
- Charlie Hagedorn
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13 years 10 months ago #204711
by Charlie Hagedorn
Ideas, some better than others:
* Expect/know how to shiver/suffer, if you go too light or screw up. The safety margin may be narrower.
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* Make all insulation work for you. With a 25F synthetic sleeping bag, a warm puffy, a hat and more, you can go below 25F. Bring spare warmth. Dry gear is precious.
* Stay dry. Stay warm. Hydrate. Eat. Stay active.
* Extra fuel. Reliable stove.
* Hot water bottles at night.
* Sleeping pads are imperative. Bulky foam pad often rides outside the pack.
* Be willing to go home. Work up to committed objectives.
* Unmanageable weather is bad.
* Packing order matters.
* Heavier and warmer can be better. Climbing is anarchy; do what feels right!
Personally, the charm of a small pack is the required attention to essentials. I've jammed everything for a summer trip into an 18L pack, then emptied it into a 60L. Lightweight nirvana, roomy pack.
A compact pack isn't inherently light. 30L of water weighs 66 lbs. If required, a lot of stuff fits in a tiny pack.
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In terms of pack choice, some ~"45L" packs expand to 60L.
I put the probe in the backpad sleeve. It doubles as a pseudo-frame, and is easy to find. After a couple years, the sleeve bottom tore, but it worked until the pack wore out. Keeping pack contents dry after shoveling is harder (just switched to a closed-end shovel to help fix that).
Replied by Charlie Hagedorn on topic Re: Advice for a 2-3 day pack?
The small pack crowd must be using less bulky sleeping arrangment and know more tricks than I . . .
Ideas, some better than others:
* Expect/know how to shiver/suffer, if you go too light or screw up. The safety margin may be narrower.
[size=7pt]
* Make all insulation work for you. With a 25F synthetic sleeping bag, a warm puffy, a hat and more, you can go below 25F. Bring spare warmth. Dry gear is precious.
* Stay dry. Stay warm. Hydrate. Eat. Stay active.
* Extra fuel. Reliable stove.
* Hot water bottles at night.
* Sleeping pads are imperative. Bulky foam pad often rides outside the pack.
* Be willing to go home. Work up to committed objectives.
* Unmanageable weather is bad.
* Packing order matters.
* Heavier and warmer can be better. Climbing is anarchy; do what feels right!
Personally, the charm of a small pack is the required attention to essentials. I've jammed everything for a summer trip into an 18L pack, then emptied it into a 60L. Lightweight nirvana, roomy pack.
A compact pack isn't inherently light. 30L of water weighs 66 lbs. If required, a lot of stuff fits in a tiny pack.
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In terms of pack choice, some ~"45L" packs expand to 60L.
(i don't like the thought of fishing through a huge tube to find the probe at the bottom).
I put the probe in the backpad sleeve. It doubles as a pseudo-frame, and is easy to find. After a couple years, the sleeve bottom tore, but it worked until the pack wore out. Keeping pack contents dry after shoveling is harder (just switched to a closed-end shovel to help fix that).
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13 years 10 months ago #204713
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Replied by davidG on topic Re: Advice for a 2-3 day pack?
www.trailspace.com/gear/dana-design/bridger/
if you can find one, or something similar - like from McHale.. Arcteryx has also made some really good packs (eg, the original Borea - almost impossible to find now since no one will sell theirs) in North America, but few would pay the cost of quality, so it went offshore with reduced specs, etc.. Some other good builders out there, but It's the same in all things - if you don't support the high end makers, the R&D investors, the passionate, the brick and mortar specialty shops where you can touch and feel and mingle with your own, they go away, and mostly all you're left with is a choice of which piece of Phillipine made REI crap are you going to get.
Seriously, you vote with your wallet..
Seriously, you vote with your wallet..
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