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Beginner's Gear Setup and Itinerary
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15 years 2 weeks ago #197350
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I'm wondering if anyone could quickly outline a Western Washington itinerary for a beginning TAY-er? I'm an advanced/ expert in-bounds skier and have done a little boot hiking/ sidecountry skiing. I want to start skiing year round however, and I'm looking for the following:
A May '11 to May '12 sample Itinerary. I'll get in lift served runs through April at least. If anyone could give a list of 1 trip each month starting in May, based on usual weather conditions/ difficulty. Ideally this list would get progressively harder as I become more experienced.
A list of beginning essentials and what you think is most suitable for a beginner. I.E. AT bindings vs. adapters, AT boots vs. downhill boots, and AT skis vs. an all mountain fat downhill.
Right now I'm skiing an all downhill setup and would be interested in what you'd recommend getting and what I could do without. Thanks in advance!
A May '11 to May '12 sample Itinerary. I'll get in lift served runs through April at least. If anyone could give a list of 1 trip each month starting in May, based on usual weather conditions/ difficulty. Ideally this list would get progressively harder as I become more experienced.
A list of beginning essentials and what you think is most suitable for a beginner. I.E. AT bindings vs. adapters, AT boots vs. downhill boots, and AT skis vs. an all mountain fat downhill.
Right now I'm skiing an all downhill setup and would be interested in what you'd recommend getting and what I could do without. Thanks in advance!
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15 years 2 weeks ago #197141
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I will post my controversial viewpoint; others will give you more conventional advice. I would get some metal-edged XC skis. One day on the lifts with them, then go ski anywhere you can find snow.
If by TAY you mean steep, sustained runs in every month, and you don't have a free-heel background or the desire to acquire one, I would suggest getting the cheapest AT setup you can find (used) and using your downhill boots. You will eventually want dynafit, but you could slum it with fritchi or (gasp!) silveretta (which will take your current boots) while you build your own opinion about the gear.
You can look at the TR's from this site for locations. Aug-Oct typically means Muir or Palmer.
Be aware of avalanche danger, although I do not think this means you must take a class (but might not be a bad idea if you haven't).
Have fun!
If by TAY you mean steep, sustained runs in every month, and you don't have a free-heel background or the desire to acquire one, I would suggest getting the cheapest AT setup you can find (used) and using your downhill boots. You will eventually want dynafit, but you could slum it with fritchi or (gasp!) silveretta (which will take your current boots) while you build your own opinion about the gear.
You can look at the TR's from this site for locations. Aug-Oct typically means Muir or Palmer.
Be aware of avalanche danger, although I do not think this means you must take a class (but might not be a bad idea if you haven't).
Have fun!
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15 years 2 weeks ago #197389
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bad timing, friend. give it a bump next week or two - you'll like it here.
Snow's coming..
Snow's coming..
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15 years 2 weeks ago #197430
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Thanks everyone for your help, and thanks for the advice David. Thoughts and prayers.
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15 years 2 weeks ago #197563
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Replied by bcglaxer on topic Re: Beginner's Gear Setup and Itinerary
Hey Freg,
I was in the same place last year. I got setup with a pair of Atomic RT86s, Marker Baron Bindings, and some Scarpa touring boots of which I can't remember the name, but they're bright yellowish-green and wonderfully ugly (you buy the boots that fit your feet - who cares what they look like?). If I had to do it over, I'd probably get Fritschi or Dynafit bindings. Love the skis and boots, though. Plenty light to tour with, stable enough to ski steep stuff. I've begun to hate transitions because you have to step out of the barons to switch from tour to ski mode, but they'll do for now.
I pretty much stuck to resorts in the winter and then would tour in the late spring/summer when the snow was isothermal which meant Camp Muir or around the Baker Backcountry (Blueberry Chutes, I think the area is called), or for a few weeks in the spring after the lifts stopped turning at Alpental or Bachelor but the snow still remained. Last winter, I took a Level I Avalanche class through Mountain Madness which has finally given me the confidence to head into the backcountry during the winter which thus far has just been a few choice weekends down at Paradise when my work schedule has permitted.
Things I've got my eye on:
Castle Saddle at Rainier ASAP
Mt. St. Helen's in March or April when a high pressure system moves in
Silver Star after Highway 20 opens in the spring
South Sister after the Cascade Lakes Highway opens in Spring
In general, it seems like when the snow is dumping in the winter, it's plenty of fun to just run laps some place convenient. In the spring, when roads open up, bigger objectives are easier to get to plus the sun sets later which makes for a better experience. Then in the summer, you pretty much ski whatever snow is left at Muir until the first snow falls in the Fall. There are plenty of folks who will hit big objectives in the winter, though. I'm just not confident in my skills to do that sort of thing yet.
I was in the same place last year. I got setup with a pair of Atomic RT86s, Marker Baron Bindings, and some Scarpa touring boots of which I can't remember the name, but they're bright yellowish-green and wonderfully ugly (you buy the boots that fit your feet - who cares what they look like?). If I had to do it over, I'd probably get Fritschi or Dynafit bindings. Love the skis and boots, though. Plenty light to tour with, stable enough to ski steep stuff. I've begun to hate transitions because you have to step out of the barons to switch from tour to ski mode, but they'll do for now.
I pretty much stuck to resorts in the winter and then would tour in the late spring/summer when the snow was isothermal which meant Camp Muir or around the Baker Backcountry (Blueberry Chutes, I think the area is called), or for a few weeks in the spring after the lifts stopped turning at Alpental or Bachelor but the snow still remained. Last winter, I took a Level I Avalanche class through Mountain Madness which has finally given me the confidence to head into the backcountry during the winter which thus far has just been a few choice weekends down at Paradise when my work schedule has permitted.
Things I've got my eye on:
Castle Saddle at Rainier ASAP
Mt. St. Helen's in March or April when a high pressure system moves in
Silver Star after Highway 20 opens in the spring
South Sister after the Cascade Lakes Highway opens in Spring
In general, it seems like when the snow is dumping in the winter, it's plenty of fun to just run laps some place convenient. In the spring, when roads open up, bigger objectives are easier to get to plus the sun sets later which makes for a better experience. Then in the summer, you pretty much ski whatever snow is left at Muir until the first snow falls in the Fall. There are plenty of folks who will hit big objectives in the winter, though. I'm just not confident in my skills to do that sort of thing yet.
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15 years 2 weeks ago #197582
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Boots may be Scarpa Spirit (I have the 4, fit was so much better for my feet than other brands that it was an easy decision).
I also have the 2009 / 2010 Atomic RT86 and find that they do fine for steeps, and are plenty light for touring. Not so good for iced-up crud, I find them chatty. Fun in corn, turny enough for trees. Feel torsionally stiff enough for me. They do get overwhelmed in deep-er snow conditions, though. I imagine fatter would be better.
My bindings are G3 Onyx, no complaints after I cranked up the DIN.
Others may disagree, but for me such a set-up: Atomic RT86 + Scarpa Spirit + Onyx is good enough for resort runs and you can enjoy BC on it after the season closes. For full disclosure: I am taking it easy, so hard chargers may find they prefer something very different.
I also have the 2009 / 2010 Atomic RT86 and find that they do fine for steeps, and are plenty light for touring. Not so good for iced-up crud, I find them chatty. Fun in corn, turny enough for trees. Feel torsionally stiff enough for me. They do get overwhelmed in deep-er snow conditions, though. I imagine fatter would be better.
My bindings are G3 Onyx, no complaints after I cranked up the DIN.
Others may disagree, but for me such a set-up: Atomic RT86 + Scarpa Spirit + Onyx is good enough for resort runs and you can enjoy BC on it after the season closes. For full disclosure: I am taking it easy, so hard chargers may find they prefer something very different.
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