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Tele boot suggestions
- Matt
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Now that NTN fixed there initial problems I hope demo fleets come back....It's a hard pill to swallow without testing.
Oh yeah Matt,
I was assuming that you like your NTN setup?
Have anything to share about that?
Yep, like the set up for crystal style skiing with the mix of lift and lift served BC. Be patient, I needed several days to get comfortable as they ski different. I still will not sell the candy canes yet but the releasable feature and the added control keep me from switching back.
I have the same liner in the TX-comp and they feel soft standing but skiing they are good maybe a little soft while skiing in rough crappy snow.
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Read up before you mount your new skis. I find I'm mounting further forward on my pow skis 1 cm behind boot center, GS skis are boot center. Pin center is out and ball of foot deal is pointless for me very close to boot center and within the adjustment travel but you have big feet.
Check your mtg plate screws before every other trip in the beginning I find my screws back out but I never gave the glue enough time to set. This should be fixed next year. The pow was flying and I mounted them 3 hours before night skiing oops.
We like to ski the same gloppy late spring "powder" if you will, so snow packing under the binding will become a problem. There are a few tricks I've seen sleeping pad foam under the springs I have not tried this yet, but wax and pam did not work for me. I had the same problem with my other tele bindings but removing the snow from the NTN is a royal pain in deep snow.
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- md2020
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We like to ski the same gloppy late spring "powder" if you will, so snow packing under the binding will become a problem. There are a few tricks I've seen sleeping pad foam under the springs I have not tried this yet, but wax and pam did not work for me. I had the same problem with my other tele bindings but removing the snow from the NTN is a royal pain in deep snow.
Yup. That's my biggest issue with NTN. When switching from tour to downhill mode, snow buildup makes it impossible to push the tour lever down without removing the ski and cleaning out the baseplate. Mostly occurs when breaking trail in deeper stickier snow. I cut and inserted some Voile anti ice tape towards the end of last season and it really seemed to help. I may try the sleeping pad foam trick this year.
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- Joedabaker
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That was going to be the project for today.
I bought the K2 Hardside ski for multi purpose use and I'll take your advice on mounting the boot center for those with the option of the fore and aft that the plate provides.
The new plate design looks better than last years. I don't understand why they designed/used the double hole punch holes for the old plate ???
Did you guys use a blue lock-tite on the two small mounting screws that connect the binding with the plate? Or just let the salt corrosion build to hold the screws from backing out?
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- md2020
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Did you guys use a blue lock-tite on the two small mounting screws that connect the binding with the plate? Or just let the salt corrosion build to hold the screws from backing out?
I didn't last year, but I probably will this year. Those set screws have to be checked every once in a while. Don't over tighten them as the holes are soft and have been known to strip out. I barely use finger and thumb on the driver. Also, I wouldn't remove them to apply the loc-tite. They're not that easy to get back in.
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- Joedabaker
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They are very comfy and they climb like a goat with the bellows flex. After a while did not have to use the heel lifts only for the super steeps like out of Green Valley.
My buddy WindDaveski thought that NTN tele touring on them was more tiring like using an o2 binding, not as free walking mode as the o1.
They do have a very dominate forward lean to them when AT skiing. The ramp angle is a little to steep for me. Tires the thighs out pretty quick. The increased ramp angle is especially noticeable when skinning on the flats. If I take the ski brake off my Dynafit it may decrease the forward lean when walking on the flats. But does not resolve the ramp when locked in the Dynafit heel.
Skied pretty good in the deep pow even on narrower skis 88 waist, seemed a little squirrelly in the firm groomed. I skied it on the lifts the other day AT and it was really good in the packed pow and small moguls off Chair 9.
I could shim the toe piece, but that will mess things up when I use my dedicated AT boots.
They are awesome climbers, so comfy that all I really have to do at the top is flip the heel lock down and I'm off and flying. Would be great for rando racing if you don't care about the extra weight of the boot.
Overall I may not be use them much for AT unless I hear a solution for that ramp angle.
Suggestions?
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- Joedabaker
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I am going to have to ski them a little more on the lifts and tinker with the adjustments a bit.
Trying to find the stance location so I feel centered not using to much trailing foot or to much forward foot. It shows up here and there but not getting the full edge feel and balance. Better feel on low angle slopes where I have easy transitions without awkward balance.
I adjusted the blue springs from 3 down to 2.5 and that made a difference in the boot deep pow. My very first run on them was in sweet powder on a 35 degree pitch and I felt like I could not get over the downhill ski. Evey time I pushed forward it pushed further out in front of me. After the adjustment I felt much better and over the ski. It skied better than the o1 in the powder, more control.
Touring is more difficult in NTN. I recommend sidecountry only. The resistance of the springs are felt even in tour mode and I do not recommend for long tours. Especially if there are a lot of switchbacks. The shovel of the ski dives when the heel is raised, so when I try to do a normal kick turn I have to have a weird straight leg or hope for the best quick move where the shovel tip of the up hill ski gets caught in the transition and sometimes needs assistance from a ski pole to come around. The heel lift is nice and easy to deploy and retract. It may wear out though over a period of time and tend to collapse while hiking.
The Scarpa TX-Pro boots are still money well spent and very comfy. The bellows help ease the stiffness of the springs when hiking. I barely have the top two buckles clamped and the boot fits perfect all I need to do is flip the walk mode to ski mode and not adjust any buckles.
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