Solo climber loses life in Yosemite N. P.

This is like the Jerry Springer Show for dem wid faux civility and high IQ's.

I think, Scotsman and Lowell, that you two are just not meant to have a good discussion in this format. As much as you've tried in the past, it just doesn't work well.

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Have you guys ever met or skied together? Good times?

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Have you guys ever met or skied together?  Good times?

As a matter of fact, we have met several times. The first time was during the June 2008 Union Creek avalanche search, which Chris organized. I have great respect for his efforts in organizing that search. Several lasting friendships began that day.

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It has been my experience that Scotty does not allow friendship to get in the way of his seemingly obsessive and never ending pursuit of the devil's advocate role.
Entertainment value? William Wallace bloodlines? Too much idle time on his hands? Who knows? Scotty may not even know for sure.
Despite this somewhat socially obnoxious character trait we still value him as a friend (But don’t tell him I said that ).
For now I pray that Christina Chan’s friends and loved ones view this massive thread drift as constructive and thought provoking to those of us with similar challenges of those which Christina faced and that they further understand that it was in no way meant to disrespect her love for her sport or the decisions that she made.
I believe all here still offer heartfelt condolences for her loss.

I started this F Y I piece,as I think the more we know, the more we have to draw from. I think I saw it from one of Lowell's reports, mentioning Arne Backstrom was skiing a 50 - 55 degree face/ chute in Peru this past June, and lost his life. I was shocked (again). We know the addages of if you fall, you die; hike what you ski. And I've already read from Lowell's replies before that he is not interested in these type of situations. Nor am I.
I really like the whole way Avalanche precautions is setup. For me, some of the key pts with avalanche terms are terrain traps; and low angle skiing during periods of Considerable - High danger. We alone make the choices.
I also saw in the 2007 Ski mountaineering book (based in Seattle), that when you are in a group, decision-making can get sort of passed from one to the next, maybe resulting in a 'poor call'. Pierre Tardivel (France) has waited 10 years to ski a line. Rob M. (Reno/ Tahoe)