The Dynafit rep had a pair of 173cm demo Stoke skis available at Vertfest. I gave them a test on the iciest stuff I could find off chair 1 (chair two had too long a line up.) They grip very well, once again Dynafit has hit a home run! I'm sure they are just fine (or better) in crud and powder. Great ski, not sure if I need something that fat in my quiver. Did anyone else try them? Comments?