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Censorship etc... have at it

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16 years 4 weeks ago - 16 years 4 weeks ago #190084 by PNWBrit
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So post moderation frenzy:

The various offendees remain offended.

The several offenders, including those that escalated the offending, remain unchallenged, unaccountable or... wait for it..... maybe even right!

Opposing sides of the conversation (it doesn't even deserve to be called a spat) are still set.

The topic remains unresolved.

Big Steve, broken Dynafit heel guy and Zbo don't get to communicate anything.

But that's Awesome! Because TAY remains all sparkly clean.

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16 years 4 weeks ago - 16 years 4 weeks ago #190085 by Scotsman
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I'm generally letting this discussion develop on its own, Scotsman, but that's an intentionally poor misreading of the actions here.  

You are, of course, free to edit the first post as much as you like.  I removed Randy's name not because I wanted to save him embarrassment, but because you quoted his reply in your comment, thus the perceived insult (which, as you say, didn't actually offend you at all) was perpetuated.

You're the one who wanted to discuss censorship here -- I'm pretty sure you don't really feel like you're flying in the wind.  This thread is here to let the community speak out about the tone and norms of the site, not to single out any particular user.  I'm happily to delete your post if you'd like me to.

Really,I can assure you it was not an intention misreading , what else could I construe from your actions. ( the insult , 7 year old girls still remains so your explanation difficult to understand)
Selective censorship and censorship in general  is a very difficult subject and the complexities and ramifications of it ,as you are finding ,persuasive. One man's balance point is another man's tipping point on the see-saw of human interactions.
No, thank you for your offer, but I do not want my post deleted.

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16 years 4 weeks ago - 16 years 4 weeks ago #190086 by Scotsman
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Scotsman, you seem to have a very clear idea of how things should be done as well as how things are failing to be done as they should be done. The offer to make you a moderator still stands so that you can put this knowledge to work and help improve the forum.


No , thank you Charles. For all the reasons I have mentioned before, its not the time invoved, or the effort, or the thanklessness of the job, I prefer to remain independent and do not have the skill required. ( and I'm not being sarcastic for once)

Edit to add: However, I can still be bought off with the offer to be in charge of the "Woman's touring group" that I made in the Passing the torch Thread. ;D ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

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16 years 4 weeks ago #190087 by Scotsman
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It would depend entirely on the question. Stupid questions, questions that could easily be answered by doing a search, (especially in the wrong forums) or those with underlying attitude get the treatment at TGR. One has to earn credibility there, and sometimes that involves having a thick skin for a while.

I've had tons of great experiences there. Been JONGed a few times early on, especially when I was looking for someone to ski sidecountry with in Utah where I failed to be clear about my experience and understanding of avalanche safety. I learned from that and adjusted my approach to such things as a result.

I've met and skied with many, many cool people there including a bunch of guys that helped my son select his line at the jr. comp at Snowbird last year and showed us goods for 3 days, bought countless items at extraordinarily good prices, sold a boatload of gear, and learned so much about everything skiing that I can't even express it. If it weren't for TGR I'd never have attended str8line camp - a life altering time.

As for their lack of moderation? Well, things have a way of working themselves out. Those who can't take the heat bail out. Those who can benefit enormously. A temporarily bruised ego isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Good points, you definitely have to go through an apprenticeship period on TGR but whats wrong with that?

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16 years 4 weeks ago #190088 by Big Steve
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Good play-by-play, PNWBrit

Interesting that TAY is discussing censorship on the day after issuance of the most important First Amendment SCOTUS opinion in decades.  FTR, re governmental censorship, I'm pretty near a First Amendment absolutist.  Re whether corporations, the creature of the legislative branch, are entitled to unbridled free speech, well.  .  .  I'd happily discuss that one over a few beers with some fellow TAYers after a tour.

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16 years 4 weeks ago #190089 by Scotsman
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Yea TAY is so full of better people and TR's  than those juevenile gangstas on TGR.
See this just posted.
Terrible.
www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182795

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