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17 years 2 weeks ago #185646
by Nathans
New to backcountry, suggestions beginner locations was created by Nathans
I'm relatively new to skiing and am looking to get into the backcountry because A) I already mountaineer
I hate snowshoes and C) lifts are expensive.
I'm in Seattle and am trying to split my time reasonably evenly between lifts (for actual skiing development) and backcountry (due to cost and for exercise). What locations would you suggest for a beginner? I'm thinking of either peaks or, more likely, areas where I could ski in, make a number of runs and then ski back out. I suppose runs shouldn't be particularly difficult since I'm new, but should give me a chance to ski using human power and through multiple runs I can work on developing skiing skills on backcountry terrain.
To give you an idea of skiing ability, I attempted Red Mountain, didn't have a problem getting up, but the ski down was way out of my league.
Ideas?
I'm in Seattle and am trying to split my time reasonably evenly between lifts (for actual skiing development) and backcountry (due to cost and for exercise). What locations would you suggest for a beginner? I'm thinking of either peaks or, more likely, areas where I could ski in, make a number of runs and then ski back out. I suppose runs shouldn't be particularly difficult since I'm new, but should give me a chance to ski using human power and through multiple runs I can work on developing skiing skills on backcountry terrain.
To give you an idea of skiing ability, I attempted Red Mountain, didn't have a problem getting up, but the ski down was way out of my league.
Ideas?
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17 years 2 weeks ago #185647
by Kyle Miller
Replied by Kyle Miller on topic Re: New to backcountry, suggestions beginner locations
Skyline ridge at Stevens
Kendal vicinity at Snoqualmie
Bullions Basin up at Crystal
Hogsback up at White Pass
Table Mountain up at Baker?
Hopefully this helps
Kendal vicinity at Snoqualmie
Bullions Basin up at Crystal
Hogsback up at White Pass
Table Mountain up at Baker?
Hopefully this helps
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17 years 2 weeks ago #185649
by Robie
Replied by Robie on topic Re: New to backcountry, suggestions beginner locations
Take a avy course if you haven't already ,
ski with a buddy.(can be here found here on turns all year)
Beacon ,Probe and shovel
Watch the avy forcasts and use common sense and your avy training on when and where not to ski .
My recomendations: some are not peaks, but peaks and their steepness will come and you need to be able and comfotable in backcountry conditions first
Hogback MT White pass .Buy a one ride ticket or skin up.
Paradise MT Rainier Lots and lots of terrain of varying difficulty
Silver Basin (ollallie meadows ) Snpqualomie and Summit west now that the lift has been destroyed.
The rest of my list is same Same as Kyles. Now starting out you don't need to go to the top, just ski what is safe and comfortable. MY example of Silver Peak basin or Kyle's Bullion basin both have big steep slopes. Forgo those at first and be content with skiing wild snow on ungroomed slopes. Perhaps take one of the steep skiing classes available. I know Crystal mt. has some classes. Good Luck and welcome to our fraternity.
ski with a buddy.(can be here found here on turns all year)
Beacon ,Probe and shovel
Watch the avy forcasts and use common sense and your avy training on when and where not to ski .
My recomendations: some are not peaks, but peaks and their steepness will come and you need to be able and comfotable in backcountry conditions first
Hogback MT White pass .Buy a one ride ticket or skin up.
Paradise MT Rainier Lots and lots of terrain of varying difficulty
Silver Basin (ollallie meadows ) Snpqualomie and Summit west now that the lift has been destroyed.
The rest of my list is same Same as Kyles. Now starting out you don't need to go to the top, just ski what is safe and comfortable. MY example of Silver Peak basin or Kyle's Bullion basin both have big steep slopes. Forgo those at first and be content with skiing wild snow on ungroomed slopes. Perhaps take one of the steep skiing classes available. I know Crystal mt. has some classes. Good Luck and welcome to our fraternity.
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17 years 2 weeks ago #185650
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Replied by CookieMonster on topic Re: New to backcountry, suggestions beginner locations
Recommendation: 100 Classic Backcountry Ski & Snowboard Routes by Rainier Burgdorfer.
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17 years 2 weeks ago #185660
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I spent a lot of time learning my back-country chops in the Paradise area at Mt Rainier National Park( thanks to my mentors RonJ and Mad-dog) You don't have to go up high in winter to find suitable slopes of different steepness and commitment.
Mazama Bowl is a great place to start and the different aspects and slope steepness around the bowl allow you to step it up when you want to. It's an easy skin in and allows you to yo-yo quite a few short runs in a short time and allows you to get used to the variable conditions found in the BC.
Edith Basin has a run called Bundy's that leads down to 4th crossing and the skin track up to Mazama Ridge and the Mazama Bowl. This is a nice run that was my bc training run for some time.
Even the skin up and ski down from the BASE of Pan Point on the Muir snowfield approach can be a good place to learn with out the commitment of having to climb up Pan Point.
There will also be other skiers in the area which can be a plus or a negative depending on your point of view.
As always, all these places need assessment of the avalanche conditions on any given day.
You must have a beacon , probe shovel and practice beacon searches before you go out.
I'd be happy to share a trip with you in repayment of the kindness that was shown me when I was at the steep start of my learning curve.( I'm still on the learning curve but it isn't so steep.
PM me and we'll arrange a trip to Paradise and I' ll show you around.
Mazama Bowl is a great place to start and the different aspects and slope steepness around the bowl allow you to step it up when you want to. It's an easy skin in and allows you to yo-yo quite a few short runs in a short time and allows you to get used to the variable conditions found in the BC.
Edith Basin has a run called Bundy's that leads down to 4th crossing and the skin track up to Mazama Ridge and the Mazama Bowl. This is a nice run that was my bc training run for some time.
Even the skin up and ski down from the BASE of Pan Point on the Muir snowfield approach can be a good place to learn with out the commitment of having to climb up Pan Point.
There will also be other skiers in the area which can be a plus or a negative depending on your point of view.
As always, all these places need assessment of the avalanche conditions on any given day.
You must have a beacon , probe shovel and practice beacon searches before you go out.
I'd be happy to share a trip with you in repayment of the kindness that was shown me when I was at the steep start of my learning curve.( I'm still on the learning curve but it isn't so steep.
PM me and we'll arrange a trip to Paradise and I' ll show you around.
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17 years 2 weeks ago #185663
by alpymarr
Replied by alpymarr on topic Re: New to backcountry, suggestions beginner locations
Hey Scotsman, can you show me around too? Was at Mazama Bowl today and realized I need to look harder than Pan Point and Nisqually Chutes...
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