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Crevasse Rescue Practice Location?
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17 years 1 month ago #185454
by Erik Henne
Crevasse Rescue Practice Location? was created by Erik Henne
A buddy and I want to do some crevasse rescue practice. Could someone recommend a small cliff or ledge near Snoqualmie Pass that would be suitable?
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17 years 1 month ago #185459
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Replied by alpentalcorey on topic Re: Crevasse Rescue Practice Location?
Lot 4 parking lot. Snopack might not be tall enough still, but you can't beat the access, and the plowing creates as vertical a wall as you're going to find.
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17 years 1 month ago #185460
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Which part of crevasse rescue do you want to practice? Ascending? Building anchors and load transfer? Implementing a haul system? All of it?
I don't really think a cliff or ledge is a particularly good place to practice anything except ascending. And if you want to practice ascending, then you hardly need a cliff to do it. Put an anchor in a nice sized tree and drop the rope to the ground. This gives you the best practice anyway because you will have to ascend a free hanging rope.
A free hanging rope simulates an overhung crevasse - sort of the worst case if you will. It's easier to ascend from inside a crevasse if you are near the wall. In that case you might very well be able to use crampons and a waist loop.
I don't really see how a cliff scenario helps you practice anchor construction and load transfer.
I'm not sure of your experience level. You could very well have much more experience than me. However, practicing crevasse rescue on a cliff, especially if you include anchor construction and load transfer, is quite possibly extremely dangerous.
Ideally you should set up a more controlled, safer environment for practice.
I don't really think a cliff or ledge is a particularly good place to practice anything except ascending. And if you want to practice ascending, then you hardly need a cliff to do it. Put an anchor in a nice sized tree and drop the rope to the ground. This gives you the best practice anyway because you will have to ascend a free hanging rope.
A free hanging rope simulates an overhung crevasse - sort of the worst case if you will. It's easier to ascend from inside a crevasse if you are near the wall. In that case you might very well be able to use crampons and a waist loop.
I don't really see how a cliff scenario helps you practice anchor construction and load transfer.
I'm not sure of your experience level. You could very well have much more experience than me. However, practicing crevasse rescue on a cliff, especially if you include anchor construction and load transfer, is quite possibly extremely dangerous.
Ideally you should set up a more controlled, safer environment for practice.
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17 years 1 month ago #185464
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17 years 1 month ago #185465
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Cookie is right a cliff is problematic. Rope would need to be padded and anchors would be where? If its ascending a tree would be best. the problem is removing skis or board and ascending is perhaps the easiest part. Arresting ,transfer the load, Building anchors,rigging a haul system and overcoming a lip not to mention a rope dug into snow. We have used a deep road cut before of the type mentioned when a crevasse was not easily acessed.
Good intentions for sure.
Now a plug. Have you been through a class of this type ? If not the Foothill Mountaineers put on one of the best around. IT;s reasonable in price and gives all students a chance in a real crevasse, ski /board removel,prussicking ,arresting, building anchors ,and rigging pulley sysems.not to mention roping and rigging for glacier travel. The Glacier Travel Crevasse Rescue (GTCR) class has been ongoing for a whole bunch of years now. It is aimed at skiers /boarders and many who have taken it stick around as instructors or in special investigation teams to try out different scenerios and methods. I,ve been in it, been back twice and highly recomend it . 4 lecture /workshops and a two day field trip. It starts in March somebody here has a link to a video of the class.
Good intentions for sure.
Now a plug. Have you been through a class of this type ? If not the Foothill Mountaineers put on one of the best around. IT;s reasonable in price and gives all students a chance in a real crevasse, ski /board removel,prussicking ,arresting, building anchors ,and rigging pulley sysems.not to mention roping and rigging for glacier travel. The Glacier Travel Crevasse Rescue (GTCR) class has been ongoing for a whole bunch of years now. It is aimed at skiers /boarders and many who have taken it stick around as instructors or in special investigation teams to try out different scenerios and methods. I,ve been in it, been back twice and highly recomend it . 4 lecture /workshops and a two day field trip. It starts in March somebody here has a link to a video of the class.
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17 years 1 month ago #185466
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Replied by Stugie on topic Re: Crevasse Rescue Practice Location?
If you want to work on prusiking (texas and whatnot) then you can do vertical rope work easy on gritscone off Exit 38. it has bolts and anchors. for setting up a z or c pulley, it has enough area to do that, but I would recommend bringing some trad gear to set low on the rock for anchors. If you want to work on setting deadman and flukes or making bollards or ski anchors, you might want to head up to the pass and just practice that near the ski area.
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