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Muir Snowfield conditions and newbie recommendations

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17 years 7 months ago #182397 by Chuck C
I have a friend who'd like me to go up to the Muir Snowfield for some skiing this weekend. I've not skied the snowfield and neither has he. He has climbed Rainier (using this route) and some other hills around here and has good climbing references (except for one "energizer bunny" comment). Unfortunately I don't know his skiing ability. Is this plan a recipe for utter disaster? Are there other locations that might be better for initiating him to summer skiing? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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17 years 7 months ago #182401 by gorper
I was up there last weekend. There is snow all the way to the parking lot. It is beginning to get a bit sun-cupped in places but the ski down was nonetheless surprisingly good.

If your friend is fit and is at least an intermediate skier, he will have a fine time on Muir.

You will have a lot more fun if your skis are waxed; summer snow if very abrasive and will make the skis grabby in short order.

Skins are unnecessary at this point...

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17 years 7 months ago #182411 by ron j

... Is this plan a recipe for utter disaster?

Probably not... especially with the weather forecast for this weekend.  The thing that I find most helpful skiing in the mountain above Paradise is to occasionally look over your shoulder to the southwest and if you see any weather coming in.  IF anything starts brewing just turn around and get off the mountain.  For sure I prefer to be below Pan Point before any weather hits.  Lots of folks been hurt taking this kind of advice lightly.

... Are there other locations that might be better for initiating him to summer skiing?

There is lots of great places to ski around Paradise but probably none easier to describe than the Muir Snowfield.  The thing about the MS is that the snow quality many times varies a lot top to bottom, which can have a major impact on the skiing.  So if you happen to be in it for the skiing rather than proving you can make it to Muir, you may want to stop and make a 500 or 1000 ft run or two instead of pushing on, if you start running into horrendous suncups or such other undesirable snow conditions.

Skins are unnecessary at this point...

Ahh... That's one of the things I love about backcountry skiing...
No rules. 
There's so many "right ways" to do things.
The only time skins are unnecessary for me is when I am riding the lift or I am carrying my skis.  And, being older than dirt, I try not to carry skis much, even in the fall, when it seems to be pretty much unavoidable.  I certainly won't carry them when there is snow to travel on (unless the only route up is WAY too steep to skin) and I also find that skins are helpful in protecting the ski bases when stubbornly skinning over snow free terrain.

Now, of course, if I had some of Charles's super dooper waxless skis....

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17 years 7 months ago #182412 by Andrew Carey
Jason Merle just did a record shortest time ascent/descent of Mt. R crediting the fine condition of the snowfield.

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17 years 7 months ago #182413 by Randy Beaver

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17 years 7 months ago #182415 by Amar Andalkar

Jason Merle just did a record shortest time ascent/descent of Mt. R crediting the fine condition of the snowfield.

credit where credits due...JUSTINE Merle  seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews...51_webrainier12.html


It appears that his name is actually JUSTIN Merle: see this detailed article in The News Tribune , and also the bios of all IMG guides at www.mountainguides.com/guides.shtml .

I bet he's pissed that several newspapers (Seattle Times, Bellingham Herald, ...) are reporting his name as "Justine".


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