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18 years 3 weeks ago #180583 by powscraper
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You have to admit it's kind of funny to hear those who were probably most sympathetic to renewable energy laws in all their beautiful vagueness now complain about actual efforts to comply.

Maybe instead we can span all of the channels in the San Juans with some kind of tidal generators, with the added benefit of putting all those evil whale-scaring companies out of business.

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18 years 3 weeks ago #180586 by dberdinka
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As a resident of Whatcom County and active recreator I've got to say it seems like a really good idea.

Presuming that geothermal power is eviromentally clean ( which might not neccesarily be the case, anyone know?) it seems reasonable to allow a relatively small amount of land (10,000 acres is a square 4 x4 miles) to be used for a significant amount of power production.

While obviously that energy could be routed anywhere, 100,000 homes has got to be approximately the number in Whatcom county. How cool would that be for a county to produce all it's power in a green and sustainable manner?

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18 years 3 weeks ago #180588 by dberdinka
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My concern woulsd be that all that "hot water" they would be pumping up would be loaded with minerals, heavy metals etc. Once you'ce cooled it off what do you do with it? Dump into Baker Lake? or spend more money to pump it back down?

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18 years 3 weeks ago #180590 by Randito
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It seems to me that if we reject outright any non-fossil fuel power generation proposal -- it's going to be hard to reduce our dependence on fossil fuel / imported oil.

Doing a Environmental Impact Statement seems like the right approach.

Two concerns I would have are water pollution and air pollution from the plant -- how much sulfur would be released from the steam?

Overall such a plant might be a good thing -- or not -- I don't have enough data to say at this point.

As far as power for 100,000 homes being too small to bother with -- baloney -- "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step". Confucius

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18 years 3 weeks ago #180594 by Randito
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In my opinion NO. Drilling into Mt. baker to provide power for 100,000 people doesnt seem like the answer to are current energy problems. Im pretty sure if we try hard enough we can come up with a better solution. If were going to come up with an energy that replaces oil, its will need to provide for more than 100,000.

I believe most of the world's oil comes from Saudi Arabi. Not Iraq or Iran. Probably why we have left them alone.


BTW Most of the Middle East oil goes to Japan, China and Europe.  The USA imports the bulk of it's oil from Venezuela and Canada.

But it doesn't really matter where the oil comes from or goes too -- it's a commodity and the price is based on global supply and demand.

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18 years 3 weeks ago #180595 by wolfs
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I visited some geothermal plants once in a place called The Geysers in CA. My dad was there consulting, I was pretty young and I didn't get to see the real cool stuff but I saw enough to get a sense of the possible environmental impact. In that particular spot, it was obviously a pretty clean way to make power.

Geothermal has the potential to generate a lot of power. The Geysers complex originally provided enough for about 450,000 people. But the steam pressure turned out to be a finite resource, and now it's not generating nearly so much. Something to consider; geothermal is potentially not really a renewable resource, it could turn out to be just steam mining. The Geysers field was unique in that it was NOT full of foul sulphuric crap from the bowels of the earth, so after letting the steam turn the turbines they just vented the steam and the water never made it back into the watertable, thus the pressuredrop. Most other geothermal locations have to do some recapture and pump it all back under again for eventual reheating, but of course pumping costs energy, and the replacement costs for all the corrosion that happens to the infrastructure that does all this is immense.

There are geothermal reports for nearly every state in the US, with the goal of looking at the temps and volumes of either steam or water as either an energy source or an irrigation water source. There's definitely one for WA and I've looked at the table-form short version before, but don't remember the numbers on the several hot spots near Baker.

I would guess that anything anywhere near Baker, like say if they tapped the Dorr field by slant drilling it at lower elevation, would be pretty damn sulphuric and they'd have to do a lot of recapture to be allowed to do it.

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