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Releasable vs nonreleasable bindings.
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18 years 1 month ago #180219
by Don_B
Replied by Don_B on topic Re: Releasable vs nonreleasable bindings.
I switched from tele with G3's to randonee with Dynafits after breaking a femur at the hip the winter before last. Haven't broken a leg since, and feel better knowing I can release. Before that accident I'd always popped out when needed, but this time it happened too fast in icy conditions with one ski caught and dove under -- no way to come out fast enough. Considered 7tms but they feel so heavy and don't release in all directions, do they? I still ski with NR 75mm 3 pins on my BC touring Karhu Pinnacles and Garmont Excursions. For that setup, not usually turning much or going fast or steep, it doesn't seem like much of a risk.
Hope you heal up quickly and get back out there soon.
Hope you heal up quickly and get back out there soon.
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18 years 1 month ago #180230
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The biggest drawback is that they're heavy, for sure, especially the tour mode binding. They release laterally and forward, though the force seems like it would be largely taken up by the heel coming up off the ski, so forward may not be as reliable. Given the way the release mechanism works, I doubt they'd release in a straight backwards fall, but if it had a twisting component they probably would.
Replied by Marcus on topic Re: Releasable vs nonreleasable bindings.
Considered 7tms but they feel so heavy and don't release in all directions, do they?
The biggest drawback is that they're heavy, for sure, especially the tour mode binding. They release laterally and forward, though the force seems like it would be largely taken up by the heel coming up off the ski, so forward may not be as reliable. Given the way the release mechanism works, I doubt they'd release in a straight backwards fall, but if it had a twisting component they probably would.
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18 years 1 month ago #180232
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Replied by md2020 on topic Re: Releasable vs nonreleasable bindings.
we have Voile 3-pin CRB's on everything we own. I consider them the best of the few choices available. Tour mode, multi-direction release, active flex, not too heavy and you can get them for $130 from Voile using they're old binding recycle program.
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18 years 10 hours ago #180977
by skiierrick
Replied by skiierrick on topic Re: Releasable vs nonreleasable bindings.
After too many years patrolling it seems simple. Releasable bindings cost about $300 broken legs cost $10,000-$30,000 with a risk of permanent disability.
As a precaution I twist my toe out instead of releasing the heal when taking off my skis. At a lodge or in the backcountry almost always! It’s rather comforting to know the bindings, anti friction devices and lubrication are all working correctly on my AT , Tele and alpine bindings they all should release with muscle power. I don't have trouble with pre release with this method either.
Rick Aydelotte
At first start easy don’t just try to twist out of din 12.
Rick Aydelotte
As a precaution I twist my toe out instead of releasing the heal when taking off my skis. At a lodge or in the backcountry almost always! It’s rather comforting to know the bindings, anti friction devices and lubrication are all working correctly on my AT , Tele and alpine bindings they all should release with muscle power. I don't have trouble with pre release with this method either.
Rick Aydelotte
At first start easy don’t just try to twist out of din 12.
Rick Aydelotte
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18 years 7 hours ago #180979
by markharf
I broke my fibula in a releasable binding, but I wasn't exactly skiing at the time. Specifically, I was flying rather rapidly through the air through a dense cluster of small hemlock trees. The moral of this story remains uncertain, but it is clear that releasable bindings do not guard against any and all mishaps.
Mark
Replied by markharf on topic Re: Releasable vs nonreleasable bindings.
Has anyone here ever broken their leg when skiing with a releasable binding?
I broke my fibula in a releasable binding, but I wasn't exactly skiing at the time. Specifically, I was flying rather rapidly through the air through a dense cluster of small hemlock trees. The moral of this story remains uncertain, but it is clear that releasable bindings do not guard against any and all mishaps.
Mark
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