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18 years 11 months ago #177466 by Marcus
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My wife has the K2 8611 Summits (older model of the Ascent?) -- she loves them for spring and summer climbs/skis. Very light for bootpacking, etc. They're pretty soft and real narrow (by today's standards) so they're a bit harder to handle in deep glop, but the weight savings is worth it to her.

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18 years 11 months ago #177473 by Jonathan_S.
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I'm more interested in a setup that's light for the approach and retains decent skiabilty for the descent, but nothing extreme. I was thinking of Dynafit bindings because of the weight savings, however, seeing the weight of the Dynafit compatible boots I was thinking it might be better to go with Naxos or Fritschis and use my climbing boots (Scarpa Omegas).

You must be looking at the wrong Dynafit-compatible boots? Also, climbing boots are incompatible with Naxos or Fritschis.
You need to go either one of the following two routes:
1. Dynafit Classic/Speed bindings with a lightweight rando race boot. The new Scarpa F1 shaves some ounces off the standard F1, and for next season the rear lever won't flop around as much, making it even better suited for climbing with crampons. Or, Dynafit is revamping its boot line for next year, but the current Race Pro boot would be a good choice, or for more weight but more support for skiing get the 2-buckle Lite or 3-buckle Evo. The old discontinued MLT4 or various versions of the old TLT4 S/Pro would also be good.
2. To retain your climbing boots, you need a Silvretta 505 binding, or the old 400 or 404.
For skis, get a rando race ski or an all-around lightweight ski with waist in the low 70s. (Or the Trab Duo Sint Aero that somehow keeps the weight at rando race level but has a 73mm waist.)
As for setups designed around a Scarpa Matrix, Spirit 3/4, or Garmont MegaRide, those are nice lightweight skiing-oriented setups (and I love my Matrix + Dynafit Comfort bindings + Trab Duo FreeRando skis), but those are not oriented toward climbing. For lightweight ski mountaineering I have the Dynafit Evo 3-buckle boot + Dynafit Comfort binding + Trab Duo Sint Aero ski, and for when the emphasis is almost entirely on the up, I have the old Dynafit MTL4 boot + Dynafit Classic/Speed binding and Atomix TM:11 ski (although I sure wish it was the Trab Duo Race instead).

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18 years 11 months ago #177474 by Rickster
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I pretty much agree with Jonathon: F1 boots, Dynafit TLT, & TRAB sint Aero- a light skiable setup. Be careful of getting a light soft ski and try skiing the volcanos- like Adams. You start from the summit on blue snow/ice and finish in mash potatoes. I used to have another brand that has light skis; but noodles- my friends didn't even want them for free.

The best place to shop for light gear- your local Rando Race- just go watch if your nervous to race. When your skiing the light stuff it is meant for more touring then steeps; but I've skied some step stuff on the light gear; but again you need a ski that will hold an edge. Most of the higher end light skis will carve and tolerate the mush- last weekend at Crystal was a good example. I passed 3 people through a little Col, steep, icey and fun. Light skis do not have to be noodles.

I used the same setup the previous weekday at Hyak 1 to 2 foot powder varying densities- mostly too heavy. The skiing wasn't pretty; but made a bunch of liked turns in untracked snow.

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18 years 11 months ago #177501 by Bill_G
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For more climbing oriented trips, I prefer the Dynafit boots. It is not just the lightness, but the way that the boot feels underfoot both on the trail and on uneven terrain up higher. My Garmonts are much less agile. Of course there is some sacrifice in the agressiveness of the boot on the ski down, but I've never felt like I did not enjoy a trip or couldn't ski well on the run down because of my boots.

Bindings - you just can't argue the weight of the Dyanfit TLTs. I'm about 250 lbs and 6'3" and haven't regretted these bindings - EXCEPT - when you are on a steep hard slope and you're trying to put your skiis on. I'm still working on doing that gracefully.

Skiis - that is probably the most open decision based on your style and willingness to carry weight. It's OK to go a little shorter than you might normally. I felt a little strange going with a slightly shorter ski initially (not super short, but maybe one step down from your normal backcountry length) - but in tight, 50 deg couliors they are pretty fun.

Bill

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