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"Shrinking Glaciers" -Seattle Times
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but still toss out some tidbits here and there just to keep their hope of a GW catastrophy (it keeps the cash cow alive)
Do you really believe this, or are you just trolling with this patently silly comment? The folks I know who devote their lives to this sort of research care deeply about the environment and sincerely believe they're doing their part to avert catastrophe. I am quite certain they'd be happy to be forced into another line of research by finding conclusive evidence that it's OK to just stick our heads in the sand and go ski. However, if you really believe your statement, I'll find it an enlightening indicator of just how much the "sides" in this debate are managing to caricature each other, and thus how little real communication is going on.
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Well said TonyM. I was listening to talk about this news on the radio and someone stated that when Greenland was first inhabited back around 940ad the continent was all green, perfect for farming, etc.
Well either you mis-heard, or whomever said that has absolutely no idea what they were talking about. Greenland has had an giant thick ice cap for a long long long time. The margins of the continent may have had a little less ice cover during the warmer period when it was settled, but if someone suggested that the continent was ice free, they are very mis-informed (astoundingly so, if they were discussing global warming).
I believe much of the evidence of global warming comes from ice cores in Greenland. Ice that's been around for a hundred thousand years or more.
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I'd guess it wasn't ice-free, but does say it was much warmer...
FWIW
Greenland was home to a number of Paleo-Eskimo cultures in prehistory, the latest of which — the Early Dorset culture — disappeared around the year 200. Hereafter, the island seems to have been uninhabited for some eight centuries.
Icelandic settlers found the land uninhabited when they arrived ca. 982. They established three settlements near the very southwestern tip of the island, where they thrived for the next few centuries, disappearing after over 450 years of habitation.
The fjords of the southern part of the island were lush and had a warmer climate at that time, possibly due to what was called the Medieval Warm Period. These remote communities thrived and lived off farming, hunting and trading with the motherland, and when the Scandinavian monarchs converted their domains to Christianity, a bishop was installed in Greenland as well. The settlements seem to have coexisted relatively peacefully with the Inuit, who had migrated southwards from the Arctic islands of North America around 1200. In 1261, Greenland became part of the Kingdom of Norway. Norway in turn entered into the Kalmar Union in 1397 and later the personal union of Denmark-Norway.
After almost five hundred years, the Scandinavian settlements simply vanished, possibly due to famine during the 15th century in the Little Ice Age, when climatic conditions deteriorated, and contact with Europe was lost. Bones from this late period were found to be in a condition consistent with malnutrition. Some believe the settlers were wiped out by bubonic plague or exterminated by the Inuit. Other historians have speculated that Basque or English pirates or slave traders from the Barbary Coast contributed to the extinction of the Greenlandic communities.
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It long has been known that the Greenland Ice Sheet probably originated about 2.4 million years ago. Geological records indicate the Greenland Ice Sheet most likely is the only Northern Hemisphere ice sheet to have survived the last Interglacial warm period of 130,000 to 115,000 years ago (roughly the Eemian warm period as identified using terrestrial records from Europe).
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...granted, this is from a biased (anti-global warming) website, but I trust we can assume this data is correct.
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