Two other skis to consider:<br><br>Karhu Jak BC -- 90mm waist<br>Karhu Kodiak -- 80mm waist<br><br>Both of these skis are stiff torsionally -- so they do better on firmer snow that you might expect for that waist size.<br><br>I have older 190 Jak's -- which are even wider at the waist -- 97mm. They don't rail the hardpack like my 64mm wasited Atomic's -- but they certainly don't wash out on firm snow. The Jak's soft snow performance is so mind bogglling good to me that with these boards on -- is seems like there is no longer any "bad" snow. Yeah OK I'm a fan.