Nov. 16, 2004 - Mt Adams Safe for Now

All the posters here seem to be Seattle skiers who have no understanding of the crowding and limited terrain issues that face Portland skiers.

<br><br>Pretty much all the resorts here have reached critical mass.  Some of the exceptions are White Pass, Hurricane Ridge, Bluewood, and a couple of others that are tucked far away.  My point PDXskier is that we (I) do understand and that's why at this point in time I think a resort on Adams doesn't sound like a good idea.  I travel to places like Adams to get away from the hords.  After riding the resorts at Hood and Bachelor I come to the same conclusion as the situation in Washington.  You better bring your sword and shield and a little Kung-Fu wouldn't hurt either.  Anyways let's leave this "pristine wilderness" to the people who want to hike/skin to earn their turns for now.  We all are aware that MHM will continue to push the resort idea and at some point in the future it will be built but not this year and hopefully not in the ones to follow.<br><br>Let's change gears here.  Does anyone have any beta on why MHM doesn't try to develop Mt Jefferson?  Better yet...how about a mega resort between Bachelor, Broken Top, and the Sisters.  They could be connected by ganjalas... I mean gondolas.

I'm disappointed. I thought a tactfully placed resort on Adams was a good idea. It would offer Portland area skiers more terrain, less crowds, better backcountry access to currently unused areas of Adams and would alleviate pressure for further development on Mt Hood. <br><br>All the posters here seem to be Seattle skiers who have no understanding of the crowding and limited terrain issues that face Portland skiers. I hope you all have fun skiing Crystal, Stevens, Snoqualmie, Baker this year--oh and making your once-a-year trip to enjoy the "pristine wilderness" on the south rib of Adams.<br><br>And sorry Lowell, I don't have a vested interest in the resort. How can you criticize anyone for posting anonymous given the confrontational and contemptuous attitude of the above posters?<br>

<br><br><br>I don't believe you. I think you work for THE MAN. Or at least, I hope you are getting something for turning to the dark side.

<br><br>  Anyways let's leave this "pristine wilderness" to the people who want to hike/skin to earn their turns for now.  

<br><br>Think carefully what you mean by this quote Snoslut.<br>Pristine Wilderness is the newly designated name for MRNP border around Crystal Mountain.<br><br>Assuming that you think that "Pristine Wilderness" should be left to people who want to hike/skin may bust a hole in that Crystal season pass that you swing around on your neck. <br><br>Some days I like to ride the lift ski from the area and drop in MRNP and ski all day then skin out is that not earning my turns?<br><br>Access to the South Back is made in part of the Pristine Wilderness zone. If MRNP wants they could pull the plug on safe Southback access from Crystal. There by reducing Crystal's ski area by 1/3! <br><br>Furthermore the Pristine Wilderness designation only allows 108 skier/boarders a day and no group more than 12 at a time to travel in Pristine Wilderness area. <br><br>I am not informed enough about the affairs of MT Adams to make a comment either way and I do not want to turn the thread into the Crystal issue.<br><br>It seems if Adams has this designation then only 108 people would be allowed to access the designated zone a day. Then the hordes of spring skiers would have to work hard to get permits based on the Pristine Zone designation. <br>If the Park and FS want they can implement procedures to adhere to the rule. Some folks who travel long distances to ski Adams will be left out in the cold!<br><br>Is it better to know Park Designations and how they effect you before you throw around ideas about areas unknown?<br><br>See you soon-<br>JBD<br>

I hope you all have fun skiing Crystal, Stevens, Snoqualmie, Baker this year--oh and making your once-a-year trip to enjoy the "pristine wilderness" on the south rib of Adams.

<br><br>Hey Joe what's the haps?  I'm aware of the issues looming around Crystal but the topic here is Adams.  Please don't take it out of context.  I was referring to PDXskier's comment in his reply to my post (quoted above).  I meant pristine wilderness as in pristine-pure and uncorrupted wilderness.  Nothing more. I'm sure PDXskier did too.<br><br>No hard feelings.

And sorry Lowell, I don't have a vested interest in the resort. How can you criticize anyone for posting anonymous given the confrontational and contemptuous attitude of the above posters?<br>

<br><br><br>You'd be more credible if there was a real person behind your screen name.

And sorry Lowell, I don't have a vested interest in the resort. How can you criticize anyone for posting anonymous given the confrontational and contemptuous attitude of the above posters?<br>

<br><br>If you spend much time on this bulletin board, you'll find that the confrontational and contemptuous attitude displayed above is very rare. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen it quite that bad before. In my experience, putting faith in  people's character and engaging them respectfully and openly on the Net nearly always yields worthwhile results. I stand by my comments in the earlier thread. The posters that I referred to seemed very fishy to me. If they presented their views openly and constructively I, and I think most people on this board, would be happy to consider them on their merits.