on the odd subject of lift-accessed terrain

???<br><br>what is the dilly? This thread is a collection of gripes and glads about riding lifts to ski.<br><br>ducking ropes: not rocket science? it depends on where the rope is , jackass! do you go under it, or air over? "I DIDNT SEE A ROPE" and so on.....<br><br>knowing the fast way to the front of the lift line, like crashing your way through a crowd to find yourself a single who mysteriously isnt there and then noone notices!?? and then calling for your buddy that you ditched.... <br><br>more from me later, what say u?

Uh ... thanks for the reminder of why I only ski backcountry any more!

glad: most of those people who have been buying all that BC gear at Marmot in the past few years (salesman there says sales are way up the past few) still seem to be heading to the lifts, based on what we see in the BC, so they are performing an admirable job of skier magnetism<br><br>gripes: people who do jumps blind w/no spotter (and then yell at you if they nearly hit you on the landing, as if you weren't supposed to be there skiing on the ski slope); beginner/intermediate snowboarders who get in over their head and sideslip all the great snow off the steeper slopes

Well, this jackass considers that a wholly uninteresting set of skills to develop. But then there's no accounting for taste, is there? Happy New Year to you.

FMS: If I catch you pullin' that falsetto single stuff in front of me, we're gonna rumble.<br><br>Duckin' ropes and huckin' ropes are the number one in-bounds passtime, methinks. Whichever one makes for a smoother transition to carry more speed, and get out of a patroller's possible line of sight quickest.<br><br>Jim: I hear you on the no spotter scenario, but what if you and your friend are both just dying to huck that beauty with the landing looking so nicely filled with pow? And just for the sake of playing devil's advocate, I'll add a gripe about people who ski to right above a nice launch, get sketched and sideslip the snow off it, then pick their way down around it, and finally stop right below it to regather their composure. Not that you would ever do that, but that guy might have earned his haircut.

Well there's two kinds of ropes up there.  <br><br>First you've got the ropes along the groomers to protect the lazy and unaware, who find it irresistible to gravitate to where they will be blind and vulnerable, such as at the base of the cliff coming out of that super rad secret tree chute.  Why the hell are they stopping anyway?  To rest?  That's what the chair lift is for.  These ropes protect them.<br><br>Then you have the ropes with the big orange and red-striped signs all over them, often but not always threatening some kind of catastrophy, and often but not always offering the most interesting way of expending your purchased verts.  These ropes proctect you.<br><br>I tend to obey the former, and seek out the latter, at least that way I'm not hurting anyone who doesn't want to get hurt.<br><br>I'd just like to add that since most of us here are probably in better shape and perhaps better skiers than your typical resort pimps, we should do our best to look as unfashionable as possible while dropping in over the heads of the lazies and getting in twice as many runs in a day.  Just maybe we'll prove that you can indeed ski and snowboard well without having to buy that $600 Pataguchi ski suit, or that $600 lift-pimpin eminem-style color-coordinated gangbanger snowboarding uniform.  As for me, I'll be out there in my $60 dollar jacket and wearing my red Pro-tec kayaking helmet.<br><br>wow a 'tude thread on TAY.<br><br>edit: can't believe I mispelled catastrophe. Man do I suck