Mt Hood (non BC) TR plus good news!

Go look at my TR, I think we had as good, if not better snow than Palmer. Sucka...

And no people! And crevasses and a nice slog uphill and no summit and a nice long hike in and out and a really, really, really pleasant bivy and the most stars I've seen and a bunch of stupid tourons. I think that pretty much sums it up. <br><br>Good to know Hood's still got some snow. Still, we need freshiez bad!

That's ok, AC. The Geezers did the Palmer TWICE last year for Sept AND Oct turns. The great thing about the "Palmer Tour" is that the 5 hour "approach" to the snow typical of the fall season is done while sitting on your A$$ in the car, shooting the breeze with your ski buddies. And how can you beat the late, apre' ski lunch at the Government Camp brew pub; it doesn't get much better than that... And your feet don't hurt on the 5 hours "back out" (in fact if you spend enough time at the brew pub, NOTHING hurts (driver excepted, of course ) <br>In fact, it's such a great "tour" that I almost hope it doesn't snow until the end of October (no, no, not really )

That's ok, AC.  The Geezers did the Palmer TWICE last year for Sept AND Oct turns.  The great thing about the "Palmer Tour" is that the 5 hour "approach" to the snow typical of the fall season is done while sitting on your A$$ in the car, shooting the breeze with your ski buddies.  And how can you beat the late, apre' ski lunch at the Government Camp brew pub; it doesn't get much better than that... And your feet don't hurt on the 5 hours "back out" (in fact if you spend enough time at the brew pub, NOTHING hurts (driver excepted, of course   )  <br>In fact, it's such a great "tour" that I almost hope it doesn't snow until the end of October (no, no, not really   )

<br>Why would you when you have REAL mountains in your backyard? <br>

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Well, if you are talking about the overall value of a tour, in terms of being in a sick setting and the accomplishment and satisfaction of climbing a line, then yes I agree. But as to the specific quality of the snow, which is the only thing I was referring to, I vehemently still believe (and I looked at the pictures - they did look very nice) that the Palmer "glacier" still wins.<br><br>This discussion will be pretty moot in a few months when we'll both be having a tasty lunch of nice cold face shots.