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Just so you know, Scotsman has done his share of stepping up in dire circumstances. He may like to debate, but he's a good and compassionate soul.

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I understand your emotions Lisa given the current circumstances and we'll leave it at that for a while.

Maybe this is better suited for one of the many other threads in which you have recently embellished in. Forgive me for letting loose here where I have silenced my thoughts and remarkes until now.
I just wonder, can you get a life Scotsman and quit with the argumentative debates in which you engage.
Can you simply get on and pipe in with ski reports instead of your daily onslaughts of issues that you feel you need to prevail in and put others down?
Come on, you have better things to do at work and in life than be bashing this or that no???
I am tired of reading your rants! I suppose I could negate the reading of such onslaught, but it is endless, all day long there is a new subject in which you engage with a negative undertone.
You are inconsiderate to others for the most part and in a sick way enjoy it. It's bewildering at best. What gives?
People are dying in the mountains, their bodies seeking recovery and you remain your instigative self, grow the F up!
When someone close to you dies and another and another with only years or months between you will see such bantering is useless air space and some of us grow tired of it, not amused at all, in fact heads are shaken wondering the point you attempt to make in this short game we call life. If you feel the need to bash this and that, create a blog, it's free and you can rant all day.
This may not be the thread in which to address this, but after months of reading you rants and rudeness, I find no other convenient time than this to say it.
Be above the expected and do not reply, change your intentions.

For the record, this is Ron J the TAY member, not “Ron J the moderator” commenting here. And like Lisa (and many others on the forum) I am just going to state my views and then back off.
I find it ironic that the initial folks that defended Chris against Lisa’s allegations are the members of the “bring back the brit” fan club (which seems self defeating, to me, by human nature, through its own mission statement… but that’s another topic).

Nonetheless, I am impressed by Lisa’s courage in posting her views on this matter, knowing (if past history is any indication), that she would likely be chewed up and spit out and, if at all possible, publically humiliated. FWIW, Lisa, I think the ridiculousness of the topic of this thread makes it the perfect place for your comments.

My hat is off to Lisa for publically stating the views of many “reports to moderator” that Marcus and I receive; the views of many PMs that we both get and the views of the countless people that I run into personally who ask me why we allow such behavior on the forum. In my opinion Lisa has clearly voiced the viewpoint of the “silent majority”, the folks that, one-by-one, decide to wash their hands of the seemingly ceaseless arguing and bullying and go elsewhere for their “fix” of backcountry skiing info.

Just so you know, Scotsman has done his share of stepping up in dire circumstances. He may like to debate, but he's a good and compassionate soul.

I do not disagree with a word of this. My personal experiences with Chris have been stellar and he has been a perfect, caring, considerate, compassionate gentleman when face to face. To my bewilderment, however, on this forum he has not been so kind to me, as others have noted.

Another commented was made earlier, something to the effect of “If you don’t like it don’t read it”… a comment that I have made to many myself.
But here’s the thing:
TAY is a backcountry skier’s forum. I believe its purpose is to share information about topics of a general skiing nature and to occasionally debate the pros and cons of a particular ski related matter. When topics begin to appear with an obvious purpose of generating entertainment value for someone, or a small “inner group” who’s sole purpose of being here is to ascertain how much discourse and pandemonium they can stir up for their own entertainment value, then the real value of the forum to the “rank and file” starts to become lost in the huge wake of irrelevance.

In my humble opinion if this type of self serving entertainment is allowed to continue unchecked by its moderators, the landscape of TAY will become permanently changed. I fear many of the valuable contributors will then go elsewhere in search of a more peaceable environment, the board owner will then eventually decide that the effort is not worth the huge economic gain he realizes :; then the TAY resource that has come to be a staple to many of us will dwindle and go away.

Are there any other opinions on this matter besides “bring back the brit”?

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Strike while the iron and emotions are hot, eh Ron.
I am unrepentant but glad to be a scource of catharsis in this terrible time.
My sympathy to Lisa and all the friends and family of the missing skier and the terrible pain they must be feeling.
Carry on.

I am with Lisa, although I've mostly given up bothering to say so because once I've made my feelings known there seems little point to repeating endlessly. Thanks, Lisa.

I also share Ron's fears for the website. I've seen it happen to other sites, and as far as I can tell the process is well under way here.

My opinions alone. Others certainly see things differently.

My condolences to all who've suffered loss this week. "Death is the hard song. We only sing it once, and none of us gets it exactly right."

Mark

not that it matters but count me in for agreeing with what Lisa, Ron, and Mark wrote.

i'm one of those who has grown rather sick and tired of the daily piling up of new inflammatory topics just to try and get a rise out of people.