Rise of the Machines

Invoking a Nazi comparison will never get us anywhere -- that's why these discussions are usually non-starters.  Would we be interested in participating in a discussion where all BC skiers/boarders were described as stinky hippies?

Already in this thread we have several examples of snowmobilers who are just like us -- good folks going out to have a good time.  Granted, they're on a BC ski forum already, but when I read Boot's TRs, or see what Toby's been up to, I love it.  It's all good stuff.  They're usually doing sled accessed touring, so there's more interest for me, granted.  Those are the situations where I think -- "hmmm, they're making 4 stroke sleds these days".

The uneducated fools who high-mark up loaded slopes?  Educate them.  Encourage the same stewardship of the land that most of us try to foster.  That's the best we can do, because it's their land too.

I hate it when I choose the wrong metaphor. I read Telemacks' post and sensed (maybe it was the quotes) that had he had a different phrase available he would have used it, but still, I took a different comparative meaning to it ~ one that every poster here would agree with ~ nobody wants to hear or smell a sled when you're on tour. The rest of his post is quite appreciated ~ what about heli tours on Rainier?

While Marcus's wisdom comes out in the end, I feel that a better fight, for those quick to it, would be against those who would sabotage others with equal rights to the space, where that is in fact the case. The best fight, however, will be the one where the community comes together to effectively lobby for its' interest in the political arena.

But, do you dissagree with Kyle... I don't

With the recent credit card bill passed by Congress and the inclusion by the gun lobby of a clause allowing the carrying of loaded weapons, by the end of the year there could be armed skier's and snowmobilers in our national parks, touring together in Yellowstone at least.. HAHAHAHA

You gotta love this country.

Shoot out at the Easton Glacier :( Yea I know it's not a NP)

There will never be heli-skiing on Mt Rainier so lets get real over what we should fear and be worried about without resorting to hyperbole.

As somebody recently said, ideology without being tempered by pragmatism is just for self-gratification.

and who is this royal "we" that Telemack refers to regarding allowing or not allowing snowmobiler's in Yellowstone.
Snowmobiler's are part of the "we" as well.

Last time I parked in Easton, I rented a sled. I totally spaced on bringing ammo.

But I totally agree ~ you gotta love this country.

There will never be heli-skiing on Mt Rainier so lets get real over what we should fear and be worried about without resorting to hyperbole.

As somebody recently said, ideology without being tempered by pragmatism is just for self-gratification.

and who is this  royal "we" that Telemack refers to regarding allowing  or not allowing snowmobiler's in Yellowstone.
Snowmobiler's are part of the "we" as well.

Boy have I been misunderstood! I'm sorry if I offended anyone. It's probably best if I stop taking part in this string. Cheers to all.

Boy have I been misunderstood!  I'm sorry if I offended anyone.  It's probably best if I stop taking part in this string.  Cheers to all.

Yea, me too, happy touring. Keep safe!