Tech Binding Pre Release Dec 6,2017

Skied 2 days of light to medium to heavier chop in Whistler Singing Pass
Area with no release issues at all. (Came off once in the chop when I buried a tip)

On way back to lifts I was in a wide tuck going 35-40mph down the runout to the closed Harmony lift. Been doing that same straight tuck for 25 years to avoid walking the flat. This time I started to fall and was first surprised then scared! I couldn't believe I could be falling, and started to stand up to correct and saw my ski fall off! I think when I stood up the binding had already released, but was still with me for a fraction of a second...Whatever...hard tumbling crash, hurt left knee and ankle, spread out over 50', missed beer at Seppos😡.

Total user error...Should not be going that fast on those Dynafit Radicals on hard pack I guess. Snow was flat but had hardened up in the shade and was a little rough.

Now I just hope I heal fast. Consider your setup at speed.

Brian

For sure. Skimo.com has done binding release tests and found it surprising how far flexing the ski can bring the heel pins to the front of the heel. Varies of course with boot and ski model.

My usual experience with this has been bits of ice keeping them from properly gripping the boot. Once I take the time to make sure it's clear no more issues.

This is a different issue then? Flexing the ski too much can release them? I have just recently begun to use them at the resort to teach the kids. Will I need something beefier if they advance past the blue runs?I don't ski aggressively too often.

You know it might have been bits of ice....There was some shock at that speed, but no bumps to create much bend. Personally, I don't use my bc skis or bindings inbounds except when really needed. Release is not as sophisticated, the bindings are expensive and wear out fast, and the skis are thin and hurt everything on hardpack. Add this to Andy's remark about flexing on Bumps, and my incident...But I love to look Backcountry Chic in resorts😜😜😜😘

Ha, looking goods important out there. Hope you heal fast. I enjoy the whistler intel.

I've had frighteningly similar pre-release issues, and I don't think it had anything to do with bits of ice or ski flex.  Granted, my sample size is small as I only expanded my touring quiver beyond the Barons mid season last year, but on two inbounds days (one at Whiteface and one at Baker) I had very unexpected pre-releases. 

I've skied the Dynafit setup hard in both the Tahoe and Baker backcountry, as well as skied The Fingers and Ah Chute at Squaw on them, and in good (soft/powder) snow conditions they've performed like a trooper.  Heck, if you want to see what kind of ski flex the Dynafits can really handle take a look at my survival skiing video of a steep and narrow chute that I navigated off the Elbow at Baker.  (Don't judge me, please! :-[ Like I said....I navigated, not skied, that one in survival mode.  I'm a near 50 year old east coast skier, so please forgive my lack of stomp-age.  )

vimeo.com/210708421

I just don't think the Dynafits respond well to a hard, icy surface under foot.  There's nothing in the toe to provide cushion or absorb the shock that an icy surface can transfer through the ski.  I love the Dynafit setup but it has its limitations, and isn't a great choice for less than ideal inbounds conditions.  Not surprising, because that's not what it was made for!

My Whiteface pre-release was similar to yours.  Skiing powder on Skyward I hit a transition to a hard, wind blown, icy stretch at speed.  No hard turn, no bumps, just a smooth transition onto ice.  All of a sudden a feeling something isn't right, then I watch my right ski head off on its own.  The high speed yard sale  that followed could have been a lot worse, thankfully.  Cranked the bindings and added a pair of Dynafit leashes after that experience....